‘Stargate Universe’ Episode 11 ‘Space’ To Air In April 2010
SyFy’s TV show Stargate Universe will continue with all new episodes only in April 2010. First 10 episodes of the first season have been shown in 2009, and the remaining 10 episodes will be shown only in April 2010, after a big 4 months break. Last 10th episode, called “Justice” had been shown on December 4th, 2009.
For those people who’ve missed some (or even all) episodes, SyFy will re-run the first 10 episodes while waiting to air the remaining ones. So, everybody will have a chance to watch this fantastic show.
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December 6th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
You wouldn’t happen to know what day in April that the 11th episode of Stargate Universe will air on SyFy do you?
December 7th, 2009 at 12:40 am
There is no official information on the exact date yet, SyFy only reported “April 2010″ so far.
December 8th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
I also noticed that SyFy is already plugging the season 1.5 DVD set. Is splitting seasons up like this just another money making ploy? Rhetorical question…
December 10th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
rethorical answer:
nooo waaay! ^^
they couldn´t! ^^
they woudn´t! ^^
(but, it does suck that it stops so soon! -.-)
December 10th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
although i do wanted it before april
December 11th, 2009 at 8:04 am
I only wanna see the 11th episode asap because it’s said to introduce a powerful alien race in a conflict with our people.
Otherwise the whole series contains too many chatting, too few aliens, fights, and space-wars, and too many love/sex affairs for a sci-fi to my taste. I don’t like it. So I’m just looking forward to see the 11th to see if it’s really gonna be better or I can delete it from my schedule…
December 12th, 2009 at 5:00 am
well i think rosh will survive and the race will come from the ship that detached from destiny in the first episode.
December 12th, 2009 at 7:52 am
I would like to know what will happen with the creasy scientist
“Rush”. Any guesses?
December 12th, 2009 at 8:01 am
vote 4 gabe! ^^
its true, but how u guys think its going too go on with rush? most likely he is going to survive with that alien ship, but, u think he is going to be captured by that alien race or somehow return to ship unharmed?
December 12th, 2009 at 11:37 am
I’m hanging on, but really REALLY need more SciFi in this show and less soap opera and T&A! Come on!
December 12th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
totally agree with gabe, until now now SGU is not really in the spirit of SG-1 and SGA.. i was really disappointed with it, really hope episode 11 will be much more interesting or they will have to stop the production, on the first season itself.
December 12th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Way to kill a show, 4 month mid season break!!!
Most of the time a show does this I am invested in some other show, so I ignore it when it comes back on. Then when the summer NO.TV.ON schedule is out, I just download them all and watch them.
Some day the networks will learn mid season break’s kill veiwership.
December 12th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
really? i love the sgu series, i know theres a lot of drama in it, but theres also alot of thought evoking concepts, and i feel that it seems more realistic and suspenseful just because there arent a ton of lame special effects, i enjoyed sg1 and sga, but the effects were cheesey and i felt like it took away from the show, this series has been done so well, and the writing, cinematography and concept is the best of all 3 series…im dissapointed that more people dont see that
December 13th, 2009 at 12:02 am
I wasn’t sure what to think about SGU to begin with but its slowly grown on me to the point where I’m quite frustrated to have to wait until April 2010 to see the next episode.
I agree there should be more sci-fi in the story lines but then, they wanted SGU to be more character based & they’ve held to that wonderfully. I remember thinking SGA was terrible when I first watched it to but as the first season progressed I became intrigued & think with SGU they’ll up the anti on the action & throw in enough shocks to keep us all hanging.
I’m trying to remain patient but its not easy *sighs*
December 13th, 2009 at 1:03 am
I was wondering why there wasn’t a new episode on this week.
I hope this short season was just to get all of the boring drama out of the way.
I was excited to see a alien ship, and I have no doubts that Rush figures it out how to get it running, he might be vengeful for being abandoned, but he will swoop in at the last second and save the crew from a alien attack(85% probability).
Though at the current rate of information and story progression, I think it will take 12 seasons just to find out what happens in the first hour of the first encounter with a advanced alien race.
30 seconds of cool alien story line, 39 1/2 minutes of worthless drama about the shortage of tampons on the ship.
God forbid that anyone gets pregnant, Lifetime just might pick up this show.
December 13th, 2009 at 4:41 am
I agree with ‘Seriously’. The FX + VFX they’re put into this series are clearly much more thought out, and the a bigger FX budget has helped massively – it LOOKS great.
The script is well written (not for want of some slightly better acting in places..) and the concept of the program works very well. The cinematography is well planned – and by introducing the Kino in the first episode, they’ve allowed themselves a vast amount of scope regarding how to bring the emotion and character profiling forward. Something I felt was missing the SG1+A. Don’t get me wrong – the ‘diary room’ moments are VERY cheesy and I don’t paricularly enjoy them, but the Kino itself provides a different (and good) perspective on what going on. (It is also a very convenient tool when trying to discover who killed that guy..hehe.)
So far they’re doing well – it’s bringing in an audience that stretches beyond the sci-fi fanatics (myself included), it develops characters more thoroughly than anything else in its’ genre, and whoever is behind the script has not only got away with 10 episodes of very litte/no action, but has everyone wanting to see what happens in April.
Target achieved I think..
December 13th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
i like universe more than sg1 or sga. its darker, grittier and a much greater sense so far of being lost and lonely. something about sg1 and sga was abit too bright and ‘everythings gonna be ok’ without that great a sense of danger…
i have a feeling that sgu is gonna run for many series… i think the first 4 or 5 episodes were great in terms of dealing with issues they faced… life support, water, food, ’settling in’ etc.
i won’t be surprised if the rest of series 1 and beyond unleashes very epic and in depth storylines and sub-stories, involving much more sci-fi, alien races etc, and less sex. i do like the level of drama though.. it shows that these are real people who had real lives, and not your typical scientist, medic, military roles that the other series seem to give.
in my mind, universe is promising to be a much deeper, darker scifi. i reckon it just needs abit of time. think about it, they pulled atlantis and then announced universe… and there are HUGE differences between the two
December 13th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
“30 seconds of cool alien story line, 39 1/2 minutes of worthless drama about the shortage of tampons on the ship.
God forbid that anyone gets pregnant, Lifetime just might pick up this show.”
This is exactly what I’ve been saying about the show. All the little side stories that take them off the ship are ruining it. I really wanted to like this show, but it seems like scyfy is intent on running it into the ground. First they drag an hour long episode into 2 with commercials every 3 minutes. Then they force conflict between just about every single character, leaving none to actually like. Now a four month break right in the middle of the season? I don’t understand the thinking behind all this. I don’t think it needs a ton of sfx like the previous ones and there are very good actors and I think some of the more character driven sg-1 episodes were the best. But it almost seems like this show belongs on bravo rather than ScyFy.
December 14th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Message to Kino, the ship that detached from Destiny was the shuttle that the senator was in. they detached it manually from inside the Destiny.
December 14th, 2009 at 11:05 am
I like how that guy couldn’t wait to jump into the chair and get fried.. like that would happen
knew it was rush too with the frame.. I want to see more banging and more aliens with clay on their faces babylon style.. they need to get control of the ship too.. then maybe rename the series stargate generations as their kids take over the series in the next 5 years with someone (besides rush) who’s actually interesting to watch.. no more washed up actors
December 15th, 2009 at 9:46 am
to be honest peeps ive watched every sci fi film there is and wht has happened here is they have put eastenders soap into a sci fi movie and this is what everyone has feared most
December 15th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Message to squeedgy: don’t think so, this ship didn’t look like the shuttle of the Destiny. In the 5. episode they are showing the ancient shuttle from the outside, the two ships are looking totally different
December 16th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Its an okay show, even if its a mix of Stargate/Lost/Star Trek Voyager/Annoying Drama Shit.
The whole, “we’re all pathetic and helpless” schtick is getting old. It was better when some of the crew had actual friendships going on. Now the characters seem even more 2D/less realistic than before. By that I mean anyone who has watched a few episodes of Lost will get the, “been there, done that” feeling when watching it.
Since Rush (the only interesting character in the whole show) is gone, they’re pretty much going to be royally fucked now, because the self-reighteous moral driven Col. Young suddenly & arbitrarily decided it was okay for Rush, the most useful person, to die, when he’s been preaching against that kind of BS for the whole show.
Obvious Prediction is Obvious:
1. They’ll be screwed and realize that they don’t have any real hope of getting home without Rush. At some point it will be made known that Col. Young tried to kill Rush, because he became butthurt when he learned that Rush had tactfully got him removed from his seat of power on the ship (oh noes, so now someone deserves to die in his book?).
2. Col. Young will hopefully die since he’s one of the most annoying characters, second to the Asian woman whose character really doesn’t fit in anywhere and seems to have only been included to piss off the audience (or she did some favors, who knows).
Less psychology and appeals to narrow ideas of human nature in lame attempts to relate audiences with the crew, and more quality content which is actually entertaining, please.
Since they’re stringing us along for four months, if Space ends up being another crappy episode, I’m not going to watch this show anymore.
What would be awesome: If they had a few episodes which revolved around Rush’s character, since there hasn’t been anything like that so far because they’ve been too busy demonizing him. Col. Young is a shitty leader and he talks about giving people choice and being fair, yet he’s been placed in charge and its obvious to some of the crew that he shouldn’t be running things.
So; more Rush, less moralfag bullshit which has saturated the season so far. Oh, and maybe some more interesting shit than people coming into conflict and hurting eachothers feelings. This isn’t ‘Stargate’, and its worse than STA.
I get less aggrivated watching Dexter for fuck sakes.
I think Rush is the only one who will really get to go on an adventure and do Stargate-ish stuff until he gets back on the ship
December 16th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Prob Rush will find somesort of working Stargate .. with or without the help of an alien race. Bud the big thing i believe will be > he will come back on Desteny and be very “pist off”! “D
April … are they mad ? i vote kill the idiot that invented mid season brake!!!
And to seriously: > we on the same brainwave m8
respect on how you see it > i also vote this is the best out of all series because this one is most real! Humans are wierd creatures .. put them on a ship in space and look what happends… half the crew get crazy or try to find compfert in others by “giving them selves” Thats the sad tragedy of us all.. ones one gets bored.. sins take over the soul…
Bud true .. its time to see an alien race .. and its time Rush comes back with some reinforcements > less drama > more war !
December 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Im pretty sure Rush becomes a Villain later on maybe the aliens convince him for his help he can take the sgu ship for himself or soemthing along those lines
or maybe they all gang rape him
or maybe they just want to sit down and have a tea party with him and talk about the weather
who knows
December 16th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
I don’t know whats wrong with these producers. Star gate is star gate. so why are they going on this emotional thing draging out the story line like Lost and Heroes? the crazy thing is until justice the show didn’t show any hope. at this point i can’t imagen another season.
Don’t get me wrong i can understand and see what there doing but there taking far to long about doing it. viewers will leave by april. the least they could have done is January.
December 16th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
you all say that its not good but you all looked it up to there no.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
this show’s working for me. seems like about half the people prefer the classic style of SG1 and SGA but for my money I’m glad they broke the mold. don’t get me wrong I watched all the previous seasons but personally I got tired of the old trick of pulling a technological rabbit out of the hat at the last minute. never any drama when all problems in life could be solved by saying in the last reel that it was caused by alternate reality/temporal paradox/asgard technology/replicator technology…. (I feel the same way about the star trek franchise and was soooo happy to see the new movie bust that mold too.) that said the episode on the jungle planet, although it really stood out on it’s own as a good episode, set the stage for all that previous series baggage to come back. I hope they can move on and let those people live or die by their own devices. bring on a good human drama set in space any day. it’s so cool with me if you don’t agree,hope you can find a show that fits your style.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
squeedgy said:
December 14th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Message to Kino, the ship that detached from Destiny was the shuttle that the senator was in. they detached it manually from inside the Destiny.
Too easy: I think we’ll find that was more important that you think. (I hope)
December 18th, 2009 at 1:45 am
i really like SGU, after reading that episode 11 wont be released till april 11 is a bit of a bummer because i really want to see what happens to rush.
this has easily become one of the best TV shows I’ve watched in a while, don’t know why others don’t see the same thing.
December 18th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Paul,
I never said it wasn’t easy but there were no aliens in that shuttle just the senator, if there’s a storyline from it, it’s going to be as a result of aliens finding the shuttle not being on it!
December 24th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Airs in Feb ‘10 apparently?
http://www.tv.com/stargate-universe/show/76070/episode.html
Andy.
December 25th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Sounds like a money making ploy. First 10 eps have really sucked and I don’t think they could do anything to really save the show except bring in old characters or something and even that would save it maybe up to the end of season 1. Freaking Sam should have been transported over there in someone’s body from like the first day or something like that if it was realistic at all. The little twist at the end of 10 did nothing for the show at all. Also having an alien race so detached from the rest of the universe that is Stargate can’t help at all either.
Show is sinking fast.
December 26th, 2009 at 4:24 am
SGU Sucks, to much shit love in the tin can. Only drama, no space action, nothing in 10 episodes. Every episode is the same shit. I have al the SG1 and SGA series, true some episode sucks but not all, they have action, science, space battle and more important its keeps my attention on the show.
I hope SGU producers make some changes, if not I will stop watching this series for sissies.
December 26th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
This show has been a double edged knife for me.
While certainly true, I watched both SG-1, and SGA, there are things that I like about SGU and some I like less.
The idea, that people are stuck on a ship, with constant problems: Well lets just say that its a cliché, that has been used one many times. Although if you think about it, our entire life is a cliché. We are stuck on this planet (For now) and there are a lot of problems that needs solving. The idea, that people are thoroughly introduced, as well as we learn a lot about their personalities, is quite finely developed and is all right I guess. I have to agree on the too much drama part. Sometimes it is too much, but then again life is also drama.I do like the fact that the show seems to focus more on the life aspects of the inhabitants of the ship, but there has been not much else.
What I miss from this show is the balance of action and unaction. SG-1 and SGA contained a lot more action, while we learned less from the characters themselves. For younger age, it is action that people want, although as people seem to grow up, their taste seems to change. I found that I seemed to enjoy SG-1 and SGA at the end less. (Probably a change in taste and personality, plus things got a little bit cliché like.) It seems that the writers of SGU have fallen into the inherent pitfall of going on the other side. Making passivity more stonger than any form of action. This has created another imbalance in the series. We learned a lot about the characters but almost nothing of the ship. I miss those great expedition missions from SGA where they go and discover the functions of sepcific places while creating some sort of accident. After all, they are on the ship to explore it, while trying to survive, and its not just plain survival and lets get down to planets. A ship like that must have many secrets like Atlantis did.
Some people are saying that they miss somekind of enemy from the show: (Ghoauld,Lucien Alliance, Ori, [Whatever you can think of])
To some point I agree, but then again it was brilliantly designed, that the enemy, is the people onboard the ships themselves and their desires and emotions interfering with their actions [A little Freudian analogy there:)]
Overall good show, but definitely needs more action and exploration of the ship and the universe itself. Afterall it is why its called Universe.
PS: About the midterm break, I don’t really care as I have a life:)
December 28th, 2009 at 1:12 am
Lost did that with its first season, i think it should not be allowed, for shows to do that, It just distracts from the story line and for those of us who have bought the series on itunes in its full, we are forced to wait for what we have already paid for which is just wrong these shows were all recored some time ago, so its just annoying and quite offensive..
I really hope they pull their heads out of their….. and make sgu as great as it could be if they quit mixing bsg and lost and add back in sg into the mix… and right now they are looking a bit like startrek ish that anyone can fix anything and Rush should simply not be able to even open the ship, and die from lack of water nuff said… add a bit more plausibility to the story geeze…
December 29th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
i didn’t completely read the posts so if this question is already here please forgive me…. how ever i would like to know how they or any one for that matter can start what in effect would be a service in this case entertainment and then just up and and “unplug it for 4.5 months… now in the business world this would really be prudent or monetarily sound.
while i do agree this show is very entertaining in fact i like both universe and Atlantis quiet a lot Atlantis is ending
and now there pulling my new Favorite off the air for a few months >...>
December 29th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
wouldn’t be monetarily sound i meant *
December 30th, 2009 at 5:33 am
serioussly why would the show be shut off for 4 months its really pissing me off.the only reason i can think off is that they want to reevaluate the show and need time to think of new changes because i seriously dont like the direction the show is moving
December 30th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Jury is still out on the show, but somebody at work described it as ‘Stagate Galactica’, and I cant help but feel that so far it does seem to be the illegitimate son of SG1 & Battlestar. A safe bet on the rating for SCIFI? I do hope the end product turns out to be more than this though. Look forward to ep 11 onwards.
December 30th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
if your like me, you just got your hands on all 10e of s1 of sgu, looked up the next episode because you’ve found yourself strangely addicted, i think im hooked on the idea that this show will produce something amazing and i have to watch it because when it does the build of of utterly nothing will have been worth it. i guess what they’ve done in the first 10 makes sense and is kind of realistic, but half of it is boring, hope the 4 month wait im about to endure for e11 is worth it.
December 31st, 2009 at 3:16 pm
See this as a 10 years movie…
In a 2 and a half hours movie, the 15 first minutes are the introduction of the characters and at the end of the 15 minutes there is a trigger event. So if you put the time line of the 10 year movie over the 2.5 hour movie, in proportion, rush being left behind is the 15 minutes mark. Meaning half of the first season is just the intro to a HUGE AWESOME and TRILLING serie.
SO you guys dont panic. Everything is going to explode at one point
and you’ll be on the tip of your seat, waiting for the next episode, I’m sure.
Peace!
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:11 am
Actually I agree with most of the people who have commented first. They have ruined our taste for the stargate. You know if somebody wants drama they can watch Desperate Housewives. This is Sci Fi. There should be that, we don’t want to know what rush and the others private life problems are. of-cause unless they are alien. Universe is like watching Lost. The difference is they have switched the beach to a spaceship. We want aliens, alien technology, conspiracies. If this goes on like this without no change think I would have to find another space sci fi thriller. Very disappointed at MGM. If you can’t find a better screen writer all the money spent for this season will be useless.
January 3rd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
April… WTF!!!
I was very disappointed when SGA was canceled (happier when i heard about a movie), but i did have high hopes for this show, and in its own way diffrent from SG1 and SGA it met them.
And i partly agree with wolex they are either reevaluating the show, or they did not film past e10 because they where hesitant about the series.
I also agree with Fran, as soon as e10 ended i know e11 was going to be the best one yet (dear god do not disappoint me scifiy) just have some patience and give it a chance.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:20 am
I loved it and can’t wait for more. It’s far more grown up than the other Stargates, blurring the distinction between good and bad so well that I actually can’t predict what’s coming next. Robert Carlyle steals the show for me, his character is obviously in charge but the others can’t admit it because he’s such a bastard.
I think some of these people complaining about the lack of sci-fi must have been watching a different show to me. The one I saw had a desperate, unwashed group of flawed people stranded on an alien starship on the other side of the universe skimming through stars, time traveling, encountering weird alien things on genuinely hostile worlds and consciousness swapping into people you suspect of doing your wife, while you are screwing her in their body from a billion light years away. How much more sci-fi can you get. I just loved the fact that Dr Rush had a nervous breakdown, not because of the pressure of trying to solve a million technical problems in order to survive but because he was suffering from caffeine and nicotine withdrawal.
As for these posts complaining about the drama and sex, I can only assume it is something they cannot relate to. I’m personally in favour of seeing Elyse Levesque taking her clothes off in dramatic situations and I would encourage the produce to continue along this line on a regular basis.
Great show 10 out of 10, but will probably get cancelled because it’s too mature and sexy for the trekkies, but I hope not.
January 4th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Wow, I’m late to this party! But is it me or is anyone else tired of vague return dates for Syfy shows? They pulled this off with Eureka last year and at least at the time of this article, they’re doing it again with SGU. Frack me!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
the actors in this are terrible apart from rush and young is it me or does scott look like he is fresh out of cadets?? he look about 18 and he is a crappy actor he is supposed to be a soldier and yet his commands seem weak and feeble when he gives them and i cant stand to look and greers 5ft chin anymore another no name crappy actor supposed to come across menacing but all he can do is stick his chin out and act moody SGU is very disappointing so far except for that one episode with the female soldier with the massive boobs that was a good one
January 5th, 2010 at 11:57 am
I watched all SG seasons and this half too. I think the writers are not normal here. I always watched SG ’cause I needed some rest,(go to another planets, aliens>> so syfy. We’re not here to watch human drama. I think everyone have enough of it. 11th episode be better than ever please..
Besides Rush, and Destiny there’s nothing. I don’t say the SGU is hopeless, I just wanna say that not every person is so patient as some of us.
…so this break… pathetic, and useless. After 3great seasons i would understand 4months. but in the(half of) 1st season it’s useless, show’s just loses of it’s “fans/watchers”. That’s a fact I think.
(sorry from my english
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January 5th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
WTF!!! Seriously are these stupid yuppie assholes who run the tv studios and decide how a show should be aired trying to kill the whole franchise?
In what planet is a mid season break a good idea?
I loved SG1 nearly have all boxsets and watch it everytime its on tv.
I loved atlantis and not happy with the stupid way it ended.
Universe is growing on me or should i say was.
I could understand a mid season break once the show was established or if they left it on a proper cliff hanger but the only reason someone not a dedicate sg fan rushes back to watch it after a 4 month break would be if they really gave a fuck what is gonna happen to rush which frankly i’m not!!!!
Seriously somebody from scify and all the other studios pull yer heads out of yer asses put on a product that people want to watch and listen to the old adage if it aint broke dont fuckin fix it!!!!
January 5th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Is eureka still been aired?
If it is then its a miracle cos i for one havent been bothered to try and find out where and when ew episodes are been shown.. My attention and time was taken up with a new show.. result of this bullshit programming planning…
Im sure with the current world wide economic situation that if the tv suits wanted to make money they could find tv planner muppets that can do better jobs than the idiots there at the mo!!!!
January 6th, 2010 at 7:57 am
I just watch the other episodes on watchsguniverseonline(dot)com pretty cool show cant wait for it to start again. I do think that 4 months is a joke between shows
January 6th, 2010 at 11:11 am
First of all: It’s really weird for me to read english native speakers (I guess, since they obviously watched the show on actual TV) with far worse english than mine… Not really important, but it just spices my face with some kind of devilish smirk…
For my part, I really like watching this show, because I hope they really get to use the deep foundation in character development they achieved with the already seen episodes. Yes, I have to admit that there have indeed been some rather tiring moments in the show and the appearance of Eli, for my part, is just a way of alleviating the pain for all those who want more extraterrestial slime and explosions, by giving them the nerdy fat kid to have somebody to better identify with (they tried this in a way with Dr.Rodney McKay in Atlantis, I think, giving us someone brainy who was socially awkward (at least at first), of course, for being socially awkward (his main trait at first) he HAD to be the canadian (I know, at least sometimes, how you US-guys tick…)), because that indeed is the kind of viewer that made the stargate franchise what it now is. (Granted, many of the yellers, now instantly uprising from their office chairs and screaming bloody vengeance are neither nerdy nor fat, but still want the slime/explosion-outburst, the series lacked so far, but you all have to admit: MMORPGs, a pizza/patty-diet and Stargate always went well together and I don’t want to criticize as I too have my Eli-ish quirks, my “beloved Senator’s Daughter” just had a weakness for fatty nerdies. *g*) Anyway, in my opionion the seen focus on drama will indeed pay off, when the show is given the time to grow and develop, because in the end we will for sure have the explosions knocking down really deep and interesting characters into the alien slime they just waded in. (For my part, I like Col. Young, he is a little more of the fatherly archetype which might bore some people but we have been shown that he as many fatherly archetypes is prone to violence when pushed to far and I think that the writers might indeed dwell on that, showing us more of that second ghastly face of him in the future, maybe turning the paladin into an inquisitor, in fantasy-terms…)
And of course Rush will hop in bed the aliens (first Soap Opera, now porn? No, you know what I mean…) if they let him, he would find that offer to fascinating to refuse (yeah, great another Locutos, one might think…), also it would put nerdy Eli even more in the center of the series as the (I just have to call him this) avatar of many viewers in the series, may be the only one to somehow get to Rush, as he is obviously the only one getting even a hint of real respect, maybe even sympathy from Rush, because if Rush gets to be the ultimate human-alien-hybrid-villain there has to be a redemption-or-destruction theme to it and I bet the human past of Rush will only then be revealed when he removes himself farther and farther from his human side. (That is, when we don’t already get it in episode 11, seeing him raving in hunger and thirst on the barren soil of the lonely planet he was left, reliving his past…) So my point is: Give Universe time to grow and will surely be bigger and better than anything like it before. And for all it’s worth: true science fiction has always been about the people not the laserguns, not about what the laserguns would do to the people, but what the people would to with the laserguns to each other. If you don’t get that try reading some Theodore Sturgeon or Clifford Simak.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:24 am
And, I forgot the following:
If they also go so in-depth with the aliens and their culture as they get with the human characters that would make many people that now nag, really drawn to the show. I bet!
January 6th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
SKY ONE IN THE UK SAYS THAT NEW EPISODES OF SGU WE BE AIRED IN JANUARY 2010.
WHY DO AMERICAN TV NETWORKS SUCK SO MUCH. IF A SHOW WENT ON A 4 MONTH BREAK IN THE UK THERE WOULD BE ROITS IT RUINS SHOWS.
January 7th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
The show is boring, slow and uncapturing. I won’t cry over the late release, perhaps they had to get some real writers. This series puts shame on the Stargate universe.
January 7th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Dar.
Right on. I’m not a syfy kind of guy but wouldn’t mind watching syfy kind of shows abit.
SGU mixes syfy and mature age veiwing together creating a more modern syfy show!!
Not to mention that Chloe, Vannessa and Johansen are hot chicks on board make this show even better!! No wonder Scott has been with 2/3 of them already in the first season!!
I loved the original stargate movie which had action, adventure AND love which was the begining to the next shows (SG1 and SGA) so Trekkies, get over youselves and give the rest of us a go with the stargate series and watch reruns if you want!!
January 7th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
What the Frak!!!!lol…ya know that is a freekin long time to wait and reeeee-watch episode ten, nine, eight….etc….Also, Whennnnn!!!! is SG-1 coming back!!!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
I can’t believe all of the posts on this topic and G was the ONLY person to point out what I’ve thought about this series from the very beginning….Battlestar Galactica.
I was really excited about the new SGU series until it actually started. This series is a blatant rip-off of Battlestar. A bunch of people stuck in a ship desperately trying to get to Earth….hmmmmmm…where have I heard this story line before? OH THAT’S RIGHT…BATTLESTAR! Jesus how can so many people be so blind to this. More importantly (IMHO) I can’t believe so many people actually like the character of Rush. I can’t stand him. I think the reason why I dislike him so much is because he is a carbon copy of the fucking Gaius Baltar character! Am I the only person that sees this??? Christ people he even looks and acts like Baltar. The long hair, the accent, the whole “i’m the smartest person on the ship and your only hope of figuring anything out” bullshit.
I was on the brink of abandoning this series all together with at the end of the episode 9. Then when episode 10 started and I realized that once again we weren’t going to get any aliens or space battles and all we were going to get was some fuckin bullshit murder mystery I said fuck it and turned it off. It wasn’t until a week later that a friend was telling me about Rush being ditched on an alien planet. That’s the ONLY reason I went back and watched episode 10…just to see Rush get his Gaius Baltar wannabe ass left behind.
Now of course I realize that with Battlestar we had amazing FX and all sorts of actual SCI-FI stuff like…oh…other space ships and aliens and war and we have NONE of that with SGU. But still, the similarities between SGU and Battlestar are too close for me to overlook.
And don’t even get me started on the bullshit 4 month season break. The folks that make Lost saw how bad that can hurt a show. They even actually listened to their viewers and did away with the mid season break. Of course by ditching the mid season break we forfeited a 21-22 episode season and instead got shafted into a 16 episode season but still it was much better than being teased with a 4 month break.
I’ll give this show one more chance. I’ll watch episode 11…if I can even remember this show 4 months from now. But if they don’t pull their heads out of their asses and throw us some of fuckin sci-fi bone then I forsee this series tanking. The writers/producers/powers-that-be need to remember that this series is running on the SyFy Channel…not the fucking Oxygen Network.
January 8th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Will keep watching with the hopes of bigger and better things to come.
Season 2 has already been given the go ahead for another 20 episodes which are to air in the fall, so they must be going somewhere with this surely!!!
January 9th, 2010 at 1:54 am
I disagree with a ton of the comments made here. In NO WAY is SGU better than SG1 and it has yet to prove better than SGA. The crying and whinning, lack of sci-fi, lack of alien races and technology (besides the Kino) make this a BORING DEAD beginning. Only in episode 10 when Rush gets what he deserves does he show prove to have any future insight and thought process into the stargate series. As for the 4 month break… it’s absolutely retarded in every brain-dead thinker of the studio. I have removed this show from my schedule. I will download it from the web once ALL of season 1 is done and see if they managed to pay attention to 15 yrs of Stargate fans opinions and loyalty or if they just destroyed one of the best sci-fi shows every created. It is disgusting and frustrating to see what a lack of care the studio has for its fan base. I’ll just watch sg1 and atlantis over and over till i die, rather than watching a poor spin-off that got so much hype and has yet to deliver ON ANY OF IT.
January 9th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Sorry if this has already been said but i couldn’t be assed to read all the posts. First off if u remember to the start of STG it used to be all drama. Even the test movie started with getting to know the characters be4 getting into any action. STGA was the same, how to survive then going out and making enemies. I personally think this is what stargate universe is doing just a fair bit slower. And though this is very tediuous you have to admit it builds susspense to when the action will start because here you all are looking when the next episode will be released. Personally i’m just pissed how atlantis ended, all the sub stories, the war with the wraith and all the humans in the pegasus galaxy they’d been fighting for all tied up according to the ending just because atlantis landed on earth. It was a well thought ending that would of have fit a couple of seasons from where it did but the current ending just leaves too many plot holes.
January 12th, 2010 at 3:24 am
QUOTE: “I think some of these people complaining about the lack of sci-fi must have been watching a different show to me. The one I saw had a desperate, unwashed group of flawed people stranded on an alien starship on the other side of the universe skimming through stars, time traveling, encountering weird alien things on genuinely hostile worlds and consciousness swapping into people you suspect of doing your wife, while you are screwing her in their body from a billion light years away. How much more sci-fi can you get.”
OMG
You just dont get it. Im not sure what show you are referring to which has all the “exciting” flawed characters and encountering “genuinely hostile worlds”. Perhaps you were watching SGA or SG-1? The post you made sounds like it came right from one of the writers of this horribly crafted mistake. There is so much wrong with this show and its lack of science fiction, that I dont know where to begin. And its NOT original at all…instantly, one sees BSG and Lost, and every single shot using the shaky cameras is right from BSG. But unfortunately, the talent behind the stories in BSG is absent completely.
The fans can see the shills rushing around the internet posting silly messages like SGU is more mature, and SGU is grown up, and BLAH. This piece of crap show is being peddled by wannabes and deceptive viral marketing. But its NOT WORKING. Most fans of Stargate who are over 30 are geeks and science buffs. WE know what science is, and evidently you do not. Those “cool” swirls drifting over the Destiny while its traveling through “FTL” (another BSG ripoff) or hyperspace or warp or whatever you want to call it…is an IMPOSSIBILITY in physics. The stones can communicate in REAL TIME? Just LOL….not even in science fiction would this be possible considering how far away they are.
This show is immature, boring, and lacks the SCIENCE part of the fiction. The stories are uninteresting, and this show is already on its deathbed. Season 2 has been approved, but by the time the second half of season 1 is over, all that will be left are some very bored crickets. I truly love Stargate, but this show is not Stargate, and its not even science fiction.
January 13th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
“seriously” is right on the money! All you morons who look at sci-fi as a bunch of fucking explosions & prancing alien assholes sucking the life out of people with the tip of their penis ruin the genre for the rest of us who have more than 2 brain cells. Do any of you realize that despite the lack of carry over viewership from previous SG series, you so-called Stargate fans, that THIS series has more viewers than many Network TV shows on, almost owning Friday night ratings?!? The fact is, SyFy doesn’t need all you unsatisfied redneck jackasses to like SGU. There are enough new viewers to sustain the show for a long time to come if they don’t screw it up by pandering to complaints from pea-brained dipshits who couldn’t sustain SGA!
Go back & look at Roddenberry, for instance. Yeah, there were aliens & firefights (as well as fist fights & lots of alien sex for Capt. Kirk), but the seres was far more about the people, their lives as space explorers, & the philosophical-moral quandries of how to carry out their mission without violating the Prime Directive. Gene, as all in his generation–Bradbury, Le Guin–knew that sci-fi gives us a wonderful opportunity to dispense with the probability issue of whether or not something can happen in the real world & actually explore significant moral questions about who we are as people & how we SHOULD conduct ourselves in the face of certain threats, conundrums, or world-altering scenarios.
For instance, philosophers argue what’s called “the identity question”: how do we know from one day to the next that we are ourselves, that our identity maintains itself across time; where does our “self” reside; is there a soul, & if so, where dies the soul reside, how do we know that “our soul” is the same soul from one day to the next if we can’t see, hear, smell, taste, or feel the soul? Within the world of sci-fi, we can have aliens take over our body or create artificial life and discuss whether or not we have to try to save the “taken” body for the person to come back or whether or not the artificial life forms is sentient & therefore has rights like the rest of us (i.e. Data from ST: Next Generation).
I love this new Stargate franchise! It’s so well done, from storyline to cinematography to set creation that I want to watch every episode again because I can’t wait for the new ones. It’s filling a void, in a way, left behind after the series finale of BSG! Frankly, I only hope that the writers don’t ruin this show with the introduction of the “alien race.” If it’s similar to how BSG dealt with the Cylons, then they’ll be okay, though I might be fine with them just continuing the struggle to return to Earth, particularly the struggle for military leaders to do what’s right for their very small society in terms of working to create a system of justice–criminal justice, distributive justice, etc– that serves the “greater good” rather than any individual good, all while maintaining individual liberties & rights as they continue developing social goals & norms.
If they regress to make this show some lame version of itself, another iteration of past SG series, then I’ll be unspeakably disappointed. This show has real promise, & could become one of the seminal programs in sci-fi history. I would be happy to be among its inaugural audience, akin to the original audience of the original Star Trek!
January 13th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
this is by far the best original series on syfy since sg1. sg1 is still my favorite sci-fi show ever,second only to star trek tng. I never cared for sga but I tolerated. I couldn’t stand bsg. there are similarities between this show and bsg and lost but they are not clones. this show does take stargate in a more mature direction for fans like me who have had many life changes. I was a kid when I started watching stargate and explosions and aliens was all I wanted to see. I would have hated this show back then. I’m married with kids now and was bored with all that in the sga era. I need more human conflict now. sgu is perfect because its the true human element in stargate setting. there is still plenty of time for more action for those who feel it needs more, just be patient. I hope the alien race does not become the main problem or overwhelming powerful like the ori. I hope its just a very dangerous nuisance that can maybe handle things with diplomatic tension. that’s my opinion. how do you people that complain about it being like lost feel about lost now showing reruns on syfy? my wife is in the phillipines right now and shes says syfy there shows smallville, angel, buffy, and kyle xy. we are very fortunate people.
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January 15th, 2010 at 2:07 am
Dead KOBE SBM…
You have no idea, what Science Fiction really is, seriously.
It really seems, that to you, SF consists solely of stories about never before seen technology. You could never be more mistaken.
For my part, I grew up with an extensive library of science fiction classics (written, like on paper). And guess what? Some of the best science fiction short stories (which were indeed the primeval soup of science fiction) are far less technical than SGU. One of the best stories ever (I think it was from Lyon Sprague de Camp, but I might be mistaken as it has been some time since I read it) was just about a shy guy who had his mind controlled by a professional womanizer from a company for an evening to have a shot at the girl he always liked. The technology part was extremely thin and as you may have gathered by now, the story had a romantic component, but it was mainly about a world, where you could make up for your social or mental shortcomings for a nominal fee and have yourself controlled by a professional, when it mattered and the fear of controlling professionals going rogue with your body. What I am pointing at is that original SF always (I might better write ALWAYS) had a strong focus on the social sciences (and no Dr. Sheldon Cooper, they are not largely hokum…). What you, dear KOBE SBM, seem to understand as Science Fiction is just a derivate created by Television and Cinema, when clever producers after learning that explosions and alien slime equal viewers also learned that explosions and alien slime are often all that it takes to haul them in. So please… be scientific and become well-read before making any statements about SF.
January 18th, 2010 at 5:33 am
this is ridicilus.10 episodes \1 season realy sucks. never seen before any sg entertaiment.very important show for tv.but syfc don’t know how important.
January 18th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
HA! I totally agree with J up there, one of the middle or so comments on this page, a real long one but it’s very true I think. The whole SG1 and SGA was definitely gettin’ old. I do love both those shows, but I don’t see how another show just like the other two could have been interesting. They are taking a step in a different direction, so far it’s slow but I’ve always liked a slow start and a buildup to the action and it seems more real somehow. These folks don’t wanna be here unlike the Jack O’ Neill and John Sheppard teams who have their safehouses of Earth and Atlantis and can go see their families after the fun is done.
I love the episode where they deal with the alien sand-dust, sealing it in a barrel and just throwing it onto the ice planet cause it’s drinking up all the little water they have. Chloe getting drunk in someone elses body is also funny shit and the whole scene where Young is screwing his wife and suddenly Lou Diamond Phillips switches back to his body for a few seconds and is screwing Youngs wife. I laughed my buttocks off.
And how can ya not love the episode where they seem to be flying to their deaths directly into a star and they discover that’s how the ship is ‘recharged’.
Also that last episode with colonel a$$head Young stranding Rush on the alien planet was awesome, but pissed me off at the same time cause now we wait till April to see what f**king happens.
I think it’s intriguing stuff and disagree and immediately hate anyone who thinks it ‘isn’t enough like’ the other two series. As soon as they tone down some of the stupid drama, it’s my favorite show.
January 19th, 2010 at 4:05 am
@ “Azimov”
“You have no idea, what Science Fiction really is, seriously.
It really seems, that to you, SF consists solely of stories about never before seen technology. You could never be more mistaken.
For my part, I grew up with an extensive library of science fiction classics (written, like on paper). And guess what? Some of the best science fiction short stories (which were indeed the primeval soup of science fiction) are far less technical than SGU.”
LOL! What a petulant little brat…you sure put your foot in your mouth with that one!
First of all, I am a scientist. A computer systems engineer with 20 years of experience, a Masters degree in Computer Science, Im a military veteran as well, and I am probably old enough to be your father. I also grew up around an extensive library of science fiction classics, and have build up a respectable one since about 1966 when I saw my first Star Trek episode. But you, like most other SGU airheads, simply wear your “experience” like a pair of pants, to be taken off when you go to bed. I am LIVING science in my daily life, and mindless vapid drama to me is immature and fit only for soap operas and dime store romance novels bought by overweight single women. Just have a seat, son.
Having said that, I see that the SGU “new fan” profile is that of people who dont know enough about science to know when the laws of physics and logic are being broken. You are obviously not a thinking person, which is why it is perfectly sensible to you that top secret technology (the communications stones) are being used by civilians to go back to earth (time dilation anyone?) to go to clubs, get drunk in somebody’s body, have lesbian sex, and to catch a cheating wife. Just LOL. And the complete lack of realism when it comes to the decorum of the military personnel is appalling. Perhaps its related to the fact that the SGU production team no longer consults the military (or scientists, evidently) when writing the utter nonsense at the heart of this show. The characters must be likable or engaging in order to create tension in TV science fiction. There is no such female as a “Chloe” in my world. A whiney useless slut. Scott and Telford are laughable as “military” personnel. And Rush is far too unstable psychologically to have passed the “rigorous Stargate program” background checks established early on in the SG canon. Greer is a convincing Jarhead, and Eli is acceptable as the hapless computer geek selected by a computer. There are too many derivative elements, and technological flaws with this show to make it interesting. And NO…its not science fiction, sorry.
For the clear thinkers here, this new Stargate show is trying to combine the dark/gritty/shaky cam that was BSG and graft it onto Stargate, while trying to hold it together with drama duct tape which is clearly too weak to do the job. Ratings are steadily dropping. FACT. The vast majority of the Stargate fanbase has rejected this show with noses pinched.
And something else…
I know EXACTLY what science fiction is. I was reading it long before you were born, and have been following it longer than you have been on this planet. Never assume anything. And please stick to topic instead of ATTEMPTING to condescend to those who can clearly see that SGU is
January 19th, 2010 at 4:08 am
CRAP
January 19th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Have some of the SGU fans posting here even watched the previous Stargate shows or other sci-fi franchises? Why do so many of them sound like they just graduated from Staturday morning cartoons and daytime soap operas to the “big time” of SGU “drama”?
@ “Who the hell are you people”
“Do any of you realize that despite the lack of carry over viewership from previous SG series, you so-called Stargate fans, that THIS series has more viewers than many Network TV shows on, almost owning Friday night ratings?!? The fact is, SyFy doesn’t need all you unsatisfied redneck jackasses to like SGU. There are enough new viewers to sustain the show for a long time to come if they don’t screw it up by pandering to complaints from pea-brained dipshits who couldn’t sustain SGA!”
HAHAHAHAHA!
Why do you SGU drama queens ignore the reality of the ratings for this show? What you posted is a flat out lie, sorry. The mediocre 2.3 for the premiere episode is the highest this show has ever received. By episode 10 “Justice”, the steady fall in ratings and viewership has dropped to an even MORE mediocre 1.3% Live+7. HALF the viewership just about. In its first season…the CLIFFHANGER. Your contention that this show “owns Friday night ratings” is also preposterous. SyFy was trying to say that the “Monk” finale was the reason for the paltry numbers on its so-called “cliffhanger” episode. Why dont you know these facts? Why LIE?
Many of the SGU “fans” post with the same tedious drama style that SGU is written in. Calling true Stargate fans “dipshits” and implying that we are somehow a less sophisticated group. LOL. I would LOVE to see the average educational levels of the typical SGU/BSG cross section of fans. Im certain I would not be very impressed.
MOST IMPORTANTLY:
Malozzi and Cooper have been told to cool their jets and stop telling Stargate fans to “not watch the show if you dont like it”. Why? Because without us, the show will tank and lots of people will lose their jobs, and money will have been wasted. They made a mistake with this show and its underperforming in the ratings. The ill-conceived half-season DVD release “in time for Christmas” was ridiculous. Without viewership, advertisers will not buy slots, and the show will be cancelled. The series has shown NO growth in viewership as a trend, and it becoming less and less popular.
The second half of the first season will most likely dig the grave for this show, being shot in the same lame BSG-esque style with the same lame drama as the first 10 episodes. Season 2 will most likely be significantly changed, but the viewership lost by the end of season 1 will be too much to sustain the show for anything past season 2. Why not just watch the events play out and keep your insults to yourself.
What was that you said?:
“There are enough new viewers to sustain the show for a long time to come if they don’t screw it up by pandering to complaints from pea-brained dipshits who couldn’t sustain SGA!”
Honestly. Viewers DID sustain SGA. In fact, the Stargate fans of the first two series is the reason there is a Stargate franchise to begin with. The producers canceled SGA because they were jealous of the “critical acclaim” that BSG was getting. They canceled Atlantis and tried to copy BSG in style, add in Lost and Big Brother and other series, and thought us “dipshits” would just gobble it up. Nope, I fear that real Stargate fans are actually SMARTER than any of the writers associated with this star tragedy.
January 19th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
I wish they’d just can this show. It’s really become a first class insult to the Stargate franchise and fans. It’s amazing that producers/directors/wtiters that come off looking like genius’ in the DVD extras could come up with this juvenile swill. But they did and it will likely lead to the end of all things Stargate.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
No I didn’t read everyones comments just adding my own here,, thanks to channel 10 in sydney taking SGU off air after episod 4 I had to watch by other means to see what I was missing out on.
Ok I understand they are trying to get people to like the characters and I do like the Rush character. But enough of the slow wins the race storys and stop being cheap with the effects and get some life back in the show please.
Get some Alien crew members on board to be part of the show maybe even a replicator or two.
Please put somelife into the show.
Johnny
January 20th, 2010 at 3:33 am
@ KOBE SBM, i 100% agree, though it’ll be sad when the shows cancelled because their jealously put them in a failboat of viewers
i feel very disconnected from any SyFy at this point, and only watch it because my girlfriend seems to like it. once i started showing her the good old SG-1 she started asking why SGU turned into a soap opera, and for the life of me, i couldnt answer her.
what irks me isnt the drama of the series, its the fact they used the SG title to attract people when SyFy could have just simply started a new series. they destroyed any hopes that another SG franchise would survuve because of their personal struggles they chose to include in this series
decent show if they could include some more SG material to it, but otherwise, i hope this gets cancelled and they can move on to kill another station. because of this, it gets harder to find something decent on SyFy and find other channels more entertaining. even my poor tivo agrees.
SGU change the damn show or buy a one way trip to cancelled series island…the failboat is leaving soon
January 21st, 2010 at 12:03 am
@ pwrtoppl
Yes, that will be unfortunate when this pig is canceled after season 2, but they chose to to it their way and forego the focus groups or consultation with any fan groups. They were DETERMINED to create this garbage in the vein of BSG, thinking that the superficial resemblances in the shaky cam, the gray corridors and cheesy Celtic music would evoke BSG. Thats not a good thing when we are talking about Stargate! Most Stargate SG-1 and SGA fans were not BSG fans, which was a drama. The last two seasons of BSG were its worst, and those two seasons seem to be the ones that SGU is modeled after. Why did Malozzi and Cooper think that BSG was “the one to beat”? It was nowhere NEAR as successful as the Stargate franchise, and is basically dead now. Caprica is like having an entire series of “communications stones” episodes back to back. Its horrible, and will tank as well.
BSG was a DRAMA series with science fiction elements. Stargate was science fiction woth a few drama elements and a LOT of comedic elements. Smiles spontaneously erupt when watching Stargate, but when watching SGU my stomach wants to erupt with my lunch. I am 99% positive they will be forced to cancel this stupid show after season 2 due to low ratings. Caprica will fail as well, since BSG fans will not like it at all.
January 21st, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Gah mid season brakes are stupid, I personally think that SGU is a great Stargate spinoff but could use a little more then just talking each other up and fighting with eachother {eg, exploring the ship a little more, some cross apperances with SGA and SG1, ship2ship combat that sort of thing}. I just want to point out something that i relised while reading these posts, in the last epi of SGA the dr something cant rember his name pointed out that atlantis can travel from any point anywher to any point anywhere else simotaniously but with a risk. If all this time has passed ol Dr Mcahy would have sorted out the risk factor and they could just ‘jump’ into the destiny gal and get em home. But nm about that, SGU as a show seems to be moving very slowely, in the fact that they could have easily crammed 5 episodes into 1 with no loss of storyline, waaaaayyyy too much drama. DR Rush will no doubt figure out that ship and probably reappear later in the seaon with loads of other ships behind him either wanting to take over destiny or needing its help {god forbid}.
January 21st, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Let me tell you why the break between episodes is so long. The show sucks and they are making a new end of a show. I am sure that there will not be a season 2 of Star Gate Universe.
January 21st, 2010 at 3:45 pm
What I mean is that they know that SG-U isn’t their greatest show and that is why the break is so long. Now they are probably making a new ending because they know that SG-U was a mistake. Lets hope for Stargate Atlantis Season 6 next year.
January 22nd, 2010 at 2:00 pm
SGU is dark and excellent.
This forum on the other hand is rubbish.
I wish some of the people here would take a long break and get cancelled after season one. I mean, how do the producers expect us to keep supporting it when they have such unlikeable and boring posts.
Wizzard and Kobe SBM for example are terrible, shallow actors that seem to have been plucked straight out of Wormhole Extreme. At one point the writers try and make us believe that Kobe is some sort of advanced scientists / military guy but it’s obvious from his “crap” post in season one he isn’t. I really hate all the drama and soap opera stuff in their posts as well, like anyone cares what’s going on inside their tortured souls…yawn. Perhaps the writers are deliberately making us hate them so they can kill them off in season two with some awesome laser cannons or explosions.. lets hope so.
pwrtoppl’s character played by actor Jeff Pinhead is almost laughable. Why do we have to read all that crap about him snuggling up with his girlfriend and trying to impressing her with his enormous SG1 collection..puke. This is supposed to be a Science Fiction forum not Desperate Housewives.
If the producers want the support of REAL forum fans they should just blow this crap out the airlock and remake the some one they made last time all over again.
January 22nd, 2010 at 5:02 pm
I agree that SGU is dark and have to admit that the special effects are excellent but I don’t think that this forum is just about supporting the show. There are some good and bad things about it (nothing is perfect). Most of the people here including me are used to see the action in SG1 and Atlantis but here in SGU there is nothing. 11 episodes and nothing is going on. They are just keep saying that they are wrong people in wrong place and their biggest goal is not tho explore universe, they just wanna come back to earth.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:17 pm
That’s a fair point Wawrzyniec, I’m sure if you and I were on that ship we, like Rush would be overwhelmed with excitement at the opportunity to explore the universe but SG1 and SGA where not about that either. I liked those shows too but they were basically comedy’s with some cool spaceships thrown in and I’m willing to bet that the real reason you like those better is not because of the “action” but because you’ve grown to love the witty and emotional interaction between the various characters. SGU is harder edged and the relationships between the characters more complex but that doesn’t make it a bad show, it just requires little more effort to understand them.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Ok. All you people feeling so incredibly amazed and annoyed at the mid season break… I have one question to ask. Have you really seriously never watched through first run series on scifi channel before? Really? Cause every single show for year and years has done this every season they ran. This started back when Farscape was in, I think either 2nd or 3rd season. It’s nothing new. They’re not “re-evaluating” anything. It’s just their method and timelines for producing the shows. Grats on having missed the annoyance for the last however many years it’s been, but it’s business as usual. Yeah, I’ve been annoyed by it for years but it’s just the way it is. They have 2 friday night lineups, and they run one for 4 months, then swap to the other while the next set of episodes from the first is finished, then they swap back. If you’ve never noticed this obvious pattern then you’re just not paying any attention at all.
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:50 pm
This is Stargate? Kill Kino NOW please! No Stargate humor, no SG mystic…. 10 episodes and only crying people…no aliens….Salve SG please! 10 EPISODES!!!! I`m really sad….really really sad….
4 months??? mid season. Sad only sad…I miss SG1. I miss Atlantis…I miss evrything!
Paul from Uruguay
January 22nd, 2010 at 11:52 pm
What was that “Doh”…i mean “Dar”? Lets post it again and look more closely:
“Wizzard and Kobe SBM for example are terrible, shallow actors that seem to have been plucked straight out of Wormhole Extreme. At one point the writers try and make us believe that Kobe is some sort of advanced scientists / military guy but it’s obvious from his “crap” post in season one he isn’t. I really hate all the drama and soap opera stuff in their posts as well, like anyone cares what’s going on inside their tortured souls…yawn.”
HUH?
Why did you waste all those perfectly useful words coming up with a perfectly useless comment like that? I have no interest in what you think of me personally or what yoy think personally of other posters here. You are whining because you dont want to hear the truth. The show is tanking horribly, Stargate fans have rejected it, and the vast majority of science fiction fandom has filed this farce in the “FAILED ATTEMPTS” file. I dont cale in the least who you are or what you are about. But I do care about science fiction and about the shows which have emerged as successful and loved, and the Stargate franchise is one of them.
Having said that, Stargate Universe is destroying the Stargate franchise. This is not based merely on the fact that I dont like it, it is being proven by steadily dropping ratings, poor DVD sales, and negative reviews and criticisms all over the internet. Do you realize how whiney you sound? You sound like most of the emo SGU fanboys. Same melodramatic whiney emo displays. Look at what you wrote:
“This is supposed to be a Science Fiction forum not Desperate Housewives.”
I agree! So, why is yours the only non science-fiction related post in this thread, and why is it the ONLY one which contains the phrase “desperate housewives”?
Last I looked, this place was called scifiscoop, and therefore an entirely apropos venue at which to vent my feelings about the imposter Stargate Universe trying to pass itself off as science fiction. But again, this isnt about me and most certainly is not about you. Its about ratings, advertisers, fans, and revenue. If these things are out of balance, the whole thing topples.
Somehow, “Doh”, I think this entire message will just go WHOOSH over your head.
January 23rd, 2010 at 12:02 am
@ KOBE SBM
Lol, I totally agree with everything you have said in this thread. Its funny to watch the two or so people who are trying to defend this garbage show. They sound so desperate and girly. I hope they are girls. But Stargate is not supposed to be a soap opera.
I have just written a scathing review of this show at me website Sci Fi Overmind at http://www.scifiovermind.com and I have posted the ratings including Live +7, Live +SD and Live +HH for all aired pisodes 1 thru 10. The show IS tanking, and the SyFy press release is spun up so much it could be used as a drill or a magneto. What I dont get is why they think that if enough people are TRICKED into watching it, that they will appreciate it or find themselves liking a drama when they wanted an action adventure show.
@ Dar
You sound really pathetic whining on this thread, sorry.
@ Wawrzyniec
You know you want to say it, you feel it coming, so why not just spit it out? SGU SUCKS! You sound like you are feeling guilty for knowing it sucks. Dont. Its not your fault.
January 23rd, 2010 at 7:39 am
Reading through these posts i’m amazed at the level of hostility towards a show/station. If you hate the show so much don’t watch it. If you enjoy it great. No one is forcing anyone to watch this so no sense trolling a forum to gripe about the things that make the show awful in your opinion.
shoo Trolls shoo
January 23rd, 2010 at 1:01 pm
The fact of the matter is, whether you like it or not Stargate Universe is what we have now. I say it’s a good thing but even if you don’t agree there really is no point crying about it. SGA is gone. That battle has already been lost and you can quote all the ratings you like but any fool knows that popularity is no gauge as to the merit of something.
It’s been rightly nominated for a VES award and season two is on the way. I’m looking forward to see what they come up with.
Thanks for your input Overmind whatever floats your boat, at least I’m not troll Kobe’s yes boy.
January 23rd, 2010 at 5:04 pm
LOL. Being nominated for a VES award is not at all related to the horrible writing for this show. Its a visual effects award, and SGU will not win it. Did you see who its up against? Just LOL. What these writers WANTEDD, is the “critical acclaim” like BSG got. But instead of being original and coming up with something new or improving upon the writing they did for Atlantis and SG-1, they attempted to copy BSG. SGU instantly reminds people of BSG because so many elements are stolen from it. But these writers lack the skills to write drama, and these characters have failed to connect with the viewers.
You said:
“That battle has already been lost and you can quote all the ratings you like but any fool knows that popularity is no gauge as to the merit of something.”
TRUE. But the ratings are the heartbeat of this show. They are steadily dropping, and when they drop to a certain level the show will be canceled. Thats just the way things work. As far as having merit as a drama, that is ridiculous because its so DERIVATIVE. Its like a bad mix of BSG, Lost, Gre’s Anatomy, Melrose Place and 90210 with some Voyager thrown in. No merit, sorry.
What is your agenda here? Why are you defending this show so much without saying what you like about it or what is so different about it? It sucks, its unoriginal and derivative, and is becoming less and less popular. I thought they might be able to fix it, and I did not expect SGA or SG-1 to be reinstated. I just wanted Stargate, but we got Battlegate Voyager: 90210.
You seem to be focusing on the individuals posting here instead of the topic. I am an adult over 40 and to me that seems rather immature.
January 24th, 2010 at 4:06 am
@ LX Terror
“Reading through these posts i’m amazed at the level of hostility towards a show/station. If you hate the show so much don’t watch it. If you enjoy it great. No one is forcing anyone to watch this so no sense trolling a forum to gripe about the things that make the show awful in your opinion.”
So, if somebody disagrees with the show and does not like it, they are trolls? And you would just have them shut up and move along so you dont have to hear it? Sorry, but NO.
Unlike most every sci-fi franchise, only Stargate and Star Trek have been around as long as 15 years. The original BSG was not a drama so I dont count that. But the point is that Stargate fans have invested up to 15 years and hard earned money on DVD box sets, and who knows what else. Fan power changes things. In the case of Star Trek, it re-ignited the original show, and is technically now on its SECOND reboot. It has been shaped largely by its fans.
SGU was an experiment. It has failed, and I have as much right to speak out about it here and elsewhere as you do. Why not post all the wonderful things you love about SGU and simply ignore what you dont like? This forum already has moderators, and I seriously doubt you are one of them.
January 24th, 2010 at 11:55 am
wsgood everybody why so long! i cant take it ne more…he he, yeah so like that doctor guy wants the hair s bad that now he got himself marooned on a sandy planet with aship he cant open and even if he does ake it tht captains gonna finish what he started
January 24th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
@Kobe
LOL. Being nominated for a VES award is not at all related to the horrible writing for this show. Its a visual effects award, and SGU will not win it. Did you see who its up against? Just LOL.
I think visual effects awards are quite important for science fiction shows I mean c’mon, it’s not going to be nominated for a Golden Globe or a BAFTA is it. It’s up against BSG, Defying Gravity, Fringe and V, a couple of those are pilots and BSG has already won it so I think SGU has a good chance. I don’t know why you are LOLing so much about this. Just being nominated is a big deal so well done to the SGU visual effects team. The actual nomination is for Air but i’d say Darkness and Light are perhaps the most stunning and the interplay with Joel Goldsmith’s soundtrack particularly in Light is just beautiful.
Critical acclaim btw is not a metaphor and doesn’t require speech marks. IF that’s what they are seeking then I say good luck to them, they’ve earned it.
January 24th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
@Dar
THANK YOU for toning down the confrontational attitude. I also want to discuss this in a cordial and mature manner.
I will give you that, SGU does have some great CGI, and its very hard to do if you know CGI programming. But its important that the CGI is relevant to the effect being sought. When you have some background in physics, you know that slow drifting swirls like the ones which drift over Destiny while its traveling in hyperspace (or FTL) or whatever, even if such travel were possible are an IMPOSSIBILITY. Does that bear on the quality of the CGI work? No. But it does fly in the face of science and physics. Its like showing a CGI meteor about to hit a planet, trailing behind it is water and lemon slices. I can accept the “whoosh” sounds in space when ships pass, and the sound of weapons (both would be impossible because sound does not propagate in space), but swirls? Nope.
In BSG, the CGI was awesome because it added realism. Star Trek used some of that BSG-esque CGI in the space scenes as well. Star Trek has also been nominated in another VES category, and in the same category as Stargate Universe VES nomination is BSG, Defying Gravity, Fringe and V. I dont think Stargate Universe will win it, but who knows? Being nominated is not that big of a deal…its like fourth and fifth place ribbons. WINNING is the big deal. And I find it amusing that the only episode which has been nominated is the one which had the battle at Icarus Base and the planet exploding, and was more SG1-like than all SGU episodes. I agree about Joel Goldsmith’s soundtrack. Beautiful…but still inappropriate for Stargate.
I use quote marks and the ellipsis in my writing because it communicates my thoughts more effectively. When it comes to artistic expression like screenplays, its always the overall work which is most relevant, not just parts of it. One cannot just lavish praise on a turd because the color was such a lovely shade of brown.
Again, thank you for being more cordial. I will do the same.
January 25th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
So woosh yes swirls no, ok.
Have to say it sounds like you’re cherry picking from the tree of impossibility Kobe but to each there own. I prefer to call it Destiny’s aurora, that’s more poetic than swirls. If hard Einsteinian physics is a criteria by which you judge science fiction then your collection must be pretty small, although I’m sure a quantum physicist might argue that lemon slices out the back of comets is as likely as anything else.
As for the whole winning is everything thing I couldn’t agree less and I think that’s a lack of empathy and imagination on your part. I haven’t seen all the shows on the VES nomination list but as someone who appreciates good CGI i’ll definitely be checking them out.
I’ll ignore the turd comment because it’s silly and I don’t believe you actually think that. I think you are just angry that SGU isn’t what you were hoping for. You can’t say people who like something are wrong just because you don’t agree with them. Yes you can come on here and say YOU hate it but you don’t have the right to quote and “diss” anyone with a different view, because at the end of the day we are SG fans too but we like the new one. My advice would be to go and watch it again without the red mist and blinkers.
One of your main gripes is that SGU is derivative of other shows well, true but everything is derivative, ask any first year arts or philosophy student. Were you expecting SGU to be Tarchovsky’s Solaris?
And while we’re on the subject, how’s this for a synopsis:
(They find a broken device guarded by a mysterious woman. The device contains the genetic building blocks of a long dead civilization that foresaw it’s own end and so built seed carriers to restart on distant worlds. The woman helps them and in return they fix the device and send it on it’s way) Sound familiar? Well it’s either SGA, Remnants or Blakes 7, Deliverance (1978)
January 26th, 2010 at 1:03 am
@ Dar
“I think you are just angry that SGU isn’t what you were hoping for. You can’t say people who like something are wrong just because you don’t agree with them. Yes you can come on here and say YOU hate it but you don’t have the right to quote and “diss” anyone with a different view, because at the end of the day we are SG fans too but we like the new one. My advice would be to go and watch it again without the red mist and blinkers.”
Ah, but you are wrong.
I really wanted to like this show. Stargate Atlantis was cancelled without a fanfare and without reason other than the personal whims of the producers who no longer wanted the “old” Stargate atround to draw fans away from their new creation. And that new creation is NOT Stargate…thats the reason I am angry and the majority of the Stargate fanbase is up in arms. This is like going to a football game, and then the players start playing baseball. Its a travesty. This is NOT Stargate. And the definition of Stargate is set by the movie, as well as both series (even the animated one). This show is a DRAMA. Stargate has never been and will never be a drama and remain Stargate.
But the anger is fueled by more than that. Malozzi and Wright both have lashed out against the Stargate fans who made the franchise what it is today, and they thought they would be rushing into the arms of all the BSG fans and Lost fans AND the Stargate fans. That simply did not happen and will not happen. The die-hard fans have been hanging on, and will probably come back en masse to see if the second half will be any better. But it wont, and then the remaining fans will abandon this show. Thats when the ratings will tank to a new low even LOWER than those for Justice. Mark these words.
You said:
“Yes you can come on here and say YOU hate it but you don’t have the right to quote and “diss” anyone with a different view, because at the end of the day we are SG fans too but we like the new one.”
But you dissed me first, did you not?
“At one point the writers try and make us believe that Kobe is some sort of advanced scientists / military guy but it’s obvious from his “crap” post in season one he isn’t.”
The fact is I really AM a systems engineer with a Master’s degree in CS, and I am really a military veteran. Thats one of the reasons I love Stargate. Many Stargate fans are geeks like me, and the new SGU has no plausible science or technology for me to marvel at. When I see those stones, I know that sex and drama is coming next, not exploration or discovery. But this is pointless. Try looking at this thread and other websites like Gateworld and SyFy. You are in a small minority of people who for some reason like this show. We are the vast majority. You cant really argue agaibnst that without being able to back it up with real ratings numbers or watching the viewership trends. We can articulate WHY we hate this show so much. Its not irrational or emotional at all.
January 26th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
I love all the Stargate series, SG1, Atlantis and Universe and the specials they’ve done. I just wish they would get on with showing it as I’m fed up of waiting!!!
January 27th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Last week I decided to watch this 10 episodes again. I don’t think that anyone should say that this show “SUCKS”. Dar has a good point. This show is dark and more serious then previous Stargates. OK, nothing special is going on, but lets give it some time. Special effects are excellent and the story itself is unique. This could become an interesting show.
Unfortunately Dar in my opinion, there wont be a season 2 of SGU.
It’s not official or anything like that but I think that the break is so long between the episodes because they want to end the show. They are probably shooting a new ending for season 1. Too many people have said “I hate SGU”.
They finished with Atlantis because they wanted to make something similar and different in many ways. If they shut down SGU the could make season 6 of Atlantis in 2011. Will see.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
I think a 20 episode season 2 starting in the Autumn has already been ordered with the titles released and I’m not so sure that a lot of people are saying they hate it, just a few people saying it a lot of times. The doom merchants always shout the loudest.
Itunes for example tells a different story with 647 five star reviews, 78 one star and an overall 4.5 star rating the same as BSG season 1 and much better than Caprica. I don’t know if that means anything but it shows that people who pay top dollar for it approve.
Mid season breaks aren’t mysterious or uncommon, even hugely popular shows like Lost have them. I’m sure it’s simply down to the fact that making long seasons (20 episodes+) of complex TV is incredibly hard work and if they didn’t have a break then people would probably start to go insane… or on strike.
January 27th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
@ Dar
“Itunes for example tells a different story with 647 five star reviews, 78 one star and an overall 4.5 star rating the same as BSG season 1 and much better than Caprica. I don’t know if that means anything but it shows that people who pay top dollar for it approve.”
iTunes is not “top dollar”, Amazon is as are the retail stores selling the Stargate Universe 1.0 (half season) DVD which is FLAT. Also, I am having trouble finding these claimed reviews on iTunes. Please post a link. The show is tanking in the ratings, and you cant explain that except that less people are watching it. No way around it.
And since you mentioned “telling a different story”, the ratings tell the same story as the fans who hate this show are telling. So are the DVD sales, the forums all over the internet, and the emergence of websites like http://www.sgusucks.com and new websites like http://www.scifiovermind.com and the Stargate Universe SUCKS forums at kobehq.com and many other places. You dont know what you are talking about. This site is great because their moderators are fair and unbiased. If we were flaming each other, they would delete the posts, but we are discussing facts and fallacies. I think the notion that this show is doing well falls squarely in the FALLACY column.
January 28th, 2010 at 4:00 am
This break could be some sort of test. Maybe they just wanna see how many people will wait for next episodes and how many will just give up.
Does anyone know why there is 4 month break? Normally this kind of break takes from 2-8 weeks. This is twice as long. I am a fun of Smallville as well and both Smallville and SGU Started at the same time. Even the break started at the same time. The only difference is that the Smallville is coming back next week and SGU in what? TWO MONTHS?!
January 29th, 2010 at 7:59 am
sgusucks.com? What kind of a madman would set something up like that, that’s just weird. I think i’ll set one up; iReallyHatePancakes.com so I can convince the four pathetic people who stumble across it that pancakes are the scourge of mankind.
I noticed a thread on there btw called “I’ve changed my name from Kobe SBM to Overmind One” (six responses, four of them by you lol) which I found funny because earlier on in THIS forum Overmind was agreeing with everything Kobe SBM said. LMFAO. You are literally talking to yourself.
Anyway thanks for the links, here’s one for you:
http://www.mentalhelp.net/
January 29th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
SYFY IS A BUNCH OF GAY ASSHOLES FOR DOING THIS TO US.
They were talking about the “Mid-season finale” before the last episode, and I had no idea what they were talking about. WHO THE HELL DOES A MID SEASON FINALE? W. T. F. Then it just stopped coming on on friday nights. So I googled, and found out they were taking a break.
THOSE. HOBOS.
HOW DARE YOU. This is why the old stargate was better. They never did shit like this. And it was less sex, drugs, and issues with authority. They cut lose in a few episodes, which was interesting to change from the usual layout, but there was no mutiny unless their boss was a goa’uld or working for them. Here we have people keeping secrets from people. They’re bad. horrible. and the guy who left Rush on the planet is a jackass. I hope he falls off the ship. I like Rush. He may not be a military mind but that doesn’t make him any less than that faggo military guy. AND the IOA. why is it that they always seem to find a way to fuck things up. I think the hole branch should be put down the toilet to save money for the economy.
January 29th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Wow!!!!!! Sure are a lot of people with a lot to say about this show. I noticed that this blog is one short if one hundred responses. So now it’s 100……yahoo!!!!
I love this show and been waiting for it to cum back on. Now I know when that is. I guess I will just have to find things to do until April. I guess I will let my fingers do the walking…..bye
February 1st, 2010 at 4:43 am
Robert Carlyle let it out the bag how Rush would get out of this situation. Apparently aliens capture him and stick him in a tank of water. The ship that left the Destiny was not the shuttle with the senator on it, it was an alien race thats been monitoring the ship. although the show has lacked a lot it is still strangely compelling, maybe its the music, today has been the worst day since yesterday.
February 1st, 2010 at 5:00 pm
So, this is what I think will happen. The guy that sat in the chair will come too and know how to turn the ship over to the people. They run into the aliens and they turn the ship around to find rush, after the col. tells them he is still alive. Or rush figures how to get the alien ship working and gets back to the ship.
February 2nd, 2010 at 6:51 am
@ Dar
So, you made an entire message to talk about OTHER people here instead of the show? LMAO. The show is so damn boring I can totally understand that. And KOBE SBM is many people, since that particular character is 8 years old…like kobehq.com is. But now there is a brand new site I own at http://www.scifiovermind.com and only I will be using it. But what does any of that have to do with SGU? Nothing at all.
Stargate Universe sucks the teabags of a donkey, and the ratings plummeted to almost half what they were at the premiere because Stargate fans are smarter than this vapid, immature drama. For children like yourself, teen drama complete with whiney emo women and spineless, emasculated males is just right. No need for science or action or originality, just gray corridors, unlikeable characters and derivative drama. Stargate dumbed down for people like you. LOL.
I host a mirror of http://www.sgusucks.com so that when April comes around and Gateworld and SyFy are inundated with haters, they can censor away and we will take up the slack. Everywhere on the internet which is uncensored is panning this soap opera. Amazon DVD reviews, Blu Ray, Hulu.com…almost universal loathing for SGU. BUT, there are a few skinny jeans wearing emo fanboys who just live this show. Love it while you can. The fans WILL get this show canceled. Without viewership, ratings fall and execs make decisions. We know the drill.
And why is it you emo SGU fanboys write with the same feminine dramatic style as the show? Attacking other posters, making excuses. LOL. Waaaah.
February 2nd, 2010 at 12:55 pm
If the ship stops every time it detects a stargate, why couldn’t Rush just gate to the next one on the ships course (assuming he knows it, perhaps the alien ship has addresses) and when they gate down to get food or whatever, there he is with a basket of fruit all bright and breezy. The look on Young’s face would be priceless.
He probably wouldn’t say anything to the others about what really happened so he could have leverage over Young to get what he wants in the future.
February 3rd, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Joe Mallozi has responded to many comments on his blog with regard to changes in the back half of season 1 and ideas for season 2. I really dont see his logic since there will be no changes. The entire season is already filmed, edited, and “in the can”. That means that if those episodes have the same boring pace and the characters remain unlikable, the ratings will drop swiftly after episode 11 or 12. Its really not good to make promises unless they can be kept. He responded to me directly with regard to that and I will definitely be checking out episode 11 “Space”. In fact, I predict that the ratings for that episode will approach those of the premiere. But if its a trick, and nothing is much different, the ratings wont take 10 episodes to tank. They could fall below 1m by episode 13.
February 4th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
I thank we need to look at sgu as a group of syfy fans. It has rated upwards of 73% that is higher then obama but they are equal in drama. Yes sgu is slow and the issues on the ship are made to look real. And yes all the people onboard are like bill clinton sex for all but the wife’s. But as they have hope to see earth again we can hope to love stargate again so if the show gets so bad you start cutting you’re self just remember sg1 is on dvd and just to put this out the evil race they fight couldn’t be as bad as the last evil race in sg1 it was so dumb i would rather change my political party to democrat then see that the space action was good but they just killed it with that ending. i hope you like the political jokes had to poke some fun it the real world but i love stargate and i hope they keep it going and don’t make anymore movies.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Hey,
This whole character Development drama is not Stargate style… That being said I like how they are building up to the action and I think with stargate name and budget has enough backup and will come out on top, But this whole break for 4 months is crazy.
To think of it there was another great sifi show that started this year called “Defying Gravity” from ABC only to be canceled after 8 episodes because of to much character development and a slow start which had great potential but they did finish showing the first season, not to mention the actors in the series were meant for those parts and worked great…
The time it was being showing and channel was probably a cause of the cancellation but the characters in this show and “whole character development drama” was great build up, to what could be a great show. Today’s TV stations are to fast to cancel shows these days if they do not make as much money/viewers as shows before them. Its all reality shows, no one has imagine these days and want to see reality shows, dreaming they are there or something instead of creative shows.
Character Development is great but it should be done over a period of time not all at once nice and slow then cut for 4 months for the rest of the season…
The networks kill the shows not the viewers.
February 6th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Admittedly, i don’t enjoy this series as much as i did SG1 or Atlantis, but i’m still frustrated to have to wait until April. While the show isn’t as good as the previous series, its still entertaining enough to watch.
February 7th, 2010 at 9:32 am
I just gotta say that this stargate is so great, you cant even compare it to the previous ones. I LOVE Stargate Universe…..
February 8th, 2010 at 5:12 am
@ Tom foley
Of course you cant compare it to the previous Stargates, because its NOT Stargate. It only has Stargate in the title. The other Stargates were science fiction action shows, and this one is a soap opera drama. Same as you cant compare Days of Our Lives with Star Trek. LOL. When will you newbies get that? Stargate Universe is an emo soap opera set in space, and is not science fiction. And keep loving it…so few people love it that they need all the love they can get. For every SGU lover there are more than 1000 SGU haters. Check the ratings, the reviews on Amazon and Hulu and everywhere else.
February 9th, 2010 at 1:15 am
Quite agree Tom,
SGU is a great show. Much more intriguing than it’s predecessors which were fun but predictable and shallow.
February 9th, 2010 at 4:20 am
@ Dar
“SGU is a great show. Much more intriguing than it’s predecessors which were fun but predictable and shallow.”
???
SGU is not a great show. If it was, ratings would be going up and most people would be writing good things about it. Right now, most people are writing bad things about it and the DVD is not selling. The ratings went way down in the first episodes. But there is a small group of people like you who like the show. But unfortunately, you guys are too small a group to support the show long term, or even in the short term. I predict this will be the shortest running Stargate series in the franchise and will probably end it as a series. Looks like the movies have been panned too. Bye, Stargate.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:56 am
SGU and SG Atlantis are far better than the previous Stargates, who can take that guy with the symbol on his forehead and carrying a stick around seriously? Laughable at best. I couldn’t even watch them for more than 5 minutes. In SGU the cast seem to be much more suited to their roles and getting Robert Carlisle on board was genius (how much are they paying him!). Maybe people don’t like SGU because its more gritty and you have to listen to a bit more dialogue. I’m with you Dar!
February 9th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Truthfully I think the show looks like they couldn’t get a good camera man to shoot it.The scenes look like they were shot with a bad camera.The actors while trying to look cool and sexy fall short of real acting.its like watching a b-Movie version of the original.We allready seen Voyager in Star Trek run this season after season and it got boring.The only thing better about Star Trek was 7 of 9’s outfit. This show lacks any high performance and will go by the way of the yawn is it over I must of fell asleep.The show moves at a snails pace and is a sleeping pill.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:01 am
This show and these characters are so shallow and predictable. I think that the notion that ANY of these characters even remotely resemble real people is laughable. Military personnel who act like the ones on SGU simply do not exist. The lack of decorum amongst them in not at all real, and anyone who has been in the military (like me) know this. The sex scenes were unneeded and not predictable, but VERY cheesy and cheap.
Just for verification, I just finished watching all 10 episodes commercial free, to see if I could determine this show’s “center”. Its certainly not the Stargate or any locations the gate takes them to, and its not the ship because nobody seems to be taking much interest in it except Rush. So what is MOSTLY happening? Bickering between characters, brooding emotional scenes where people are talking about their feelings, earth-based drama involving cheating wives and lesbian sex and night clubs.
The back half of season 1 will make or break this show, despite approval for season 2. The small group of people who like the show is too small to keep it afloat, and many cable stations have removed it from their lineup by not purchasing air rights (due to low ratings and interest). This small group of fanboys is a strange group…they think this soap opera in space is not only original, but that its science fiction. Its just NOT. And even the drama fans dont like it. Massive fail. Season 2 will be its last.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Talking about their feelings? Cheating wives? Lesbian Sex? OMG how boring. Why can’t they have more explosions and big weapons.
I’m no psychologist but it seems to me that the main complaint about SGU so far is actually a bizarre manifestation of misogyny.
Look there’s nothing wrong with liking big sweaty, muscle men in vests and tight pants; brandishing enormous guns, to each the own. I prefer Chloe in the shower myself but hey.. that’s just me, maybe I’m just some weirdo emo fanboy or something.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
@ Dar
Yes, you ARE just an emo fanboi if you like this ridiculous soap opera. Chloe in the shower doesnt belong on Stargate. And since I have been watching SG-1 and Atlantis a lot lately, I notice how much more attractive Sam Carter, Vala, Teyla, Dr Weir, and all the hot Go’auld women are. The guys on SG-1 are MEN, while the males on SGU are effeminate and/or emotional and whiney like women. Funny, this show has the lowest female viewership of all the shows on SyFy. That leaves effeminate, emo fanboi types who get a cheap thrill from seeing fake boobs and Chloe in the shower. Must be because they will never see a REAL girl in the shower unless its his sister. But I digress…I can just get in the shower with my girlfriend if I want to see that, or tune into one of those soap operas that women (and emo fanboys) love so much.
For 15 years, Stargate has been about adventure, science, aliens, guns and humor. And for 15 years, MILLIONS of fans have made the Stargate franchise into a success. Now, within a 3 month period, this poorly conceived, poorly acted bomb has destroyed the franchise. This poll at Gateworld tells the story about the DVD/BluRay:http://www.gateworld.net/cgi-bin/stargatepoll.cgi?what=results&q=149, and the ratings went from an already low 2.3m viewers for the premiere, to only 1.3 for the “cliffhanger”
SGU lovers are a small, whiney little group of emo fanboi types who love drama and soapy character development which is subpar and vapid. A dumbed down shadow of science fiction made for the eyeliner boys. But me little words are but 1 viewpoint. I am more amused by the THOUSANDS of horrible reviews, poor critiques of the show, bad reviews even on Hulu where the show is free. SGU lovers are a tiny little insignificant group and you are part of it. I guess that matches the percentage of emo boys to men. For every 1000 masculine males, there is one effeminate whiney male. That is about the ratio of SGU lovers to Stargate fans.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
And you are a rude, idiotic douchebag troller.
So you don’t like the show. Who cares? Your post was absurdly long to say just that. Who gives a rats ass if you don’t like it, and he does. Get over yourself, child.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Overmind One,
Without fear of sounding like a hypocrite…
It sounds like you’re a tad obsessed. I stumbled across one of your ranting sessions about someone else’s opinion and just couldn’t seem to help giving you mine. It’s not your opinion of the show that bothers me, just your fanatical juvenile assaults. I have never commented on any of these sites before, but seemed compelled to after glancing at a few of yours, lol. As a woman, I’ve noticed over the years that the men who like to use such childish outbursts towards an otherwise simple comment, are usually the ones with some kind of emotional imbalance. I guess instead we should be congratulating you on the fact that you get to take showers with your girlfriend, as I’m sure that there are no “emo fanbois” who get that kind of opportunity, thus having to rely on the oh so controversial sexual content of SGU. Grow up…it’s a TELEVISION SHOW, if you don’t like it, don’t watch it…..And by the way…the more you rant like that, the more you sound like an over obsessed FOOL. But no need to worry hun, you’ll be older and wiser in no time, and much more capable of making good decisions that don’t reflect poorly on you.
Just realized that I just had a similar conversation with my 14 year old son earlier, imagine that.
February 11th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Cheap thrill? I have to watch it via Itunes and it’s three dollars an episode, so it’s actually quite an expensive thrill.. and now I feel bad because, as you so wisely point out REAL men aren’t interested in seeing beautiful women on the TV because they are so blasé from all the hot girls they’re constantly having to fend off. Oh please.. The only woman you’ve ever seen in a shower is nurse Ratchet from ward 7 while she’s hosing you down.
I think these forums are the only way you can get any attention, it’s certainly not about Stargate Universe anymore, poor you, seriously.., Guy hug?.. No?
Oh well, I’m off to redo my eyeliner and deal with my emotions. SGU (and Green Day) rawk.
February 11th, 2010 at 6:42 am
@ st8ofbliss
Oh yay. Another one of you silly people who have a compulsion to attempt to direct judgment towards posters here instead of discussing Stargate Universe. At least “Dar” is attempting to stay on the topic. Your post contained absolutely NOTHING about Stargate. I couldnt care less about your backstory, your 14 year old son or whatever else you are mumbling about with regard to non-Stargate material. Stargate Universe has enough drama already…I have had my fill, thank you very much for sharing.
@ Dar
Silly child. I am most likely old enough to be your father (over 40). I own several websites (click my name to go to my most recent one). I have an agenda, and I am not alone. The fans of the REAL Stargate will get Stargate Universe cancelled. If you want to see how this is going to play out, then look to the Star Trek Enterprise example. Star Trek Enterprise went “where no Trek had gone before”, and that turned out to be the losers bin. It killed the Star Trek franchine by messing with the canon and the format. BSG did the same thing. So did Defying Gravity, and so will Caprica. But Stargate Universe will make history as being the shortest running new Stargate show in franchise history.
The other silly drivel you wrote is not worth responding to. But one thing that really jumped out is WHY are you not simply watching it at Hulu for FREE? Silly, silly child. If you are using a Mac, simply download Internet Explorer for OSX and Hulu will work. And while there, look at the reviews for Stargate Universe which have collected by the hundreds…just LOL!
February 12th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Well I think there will be good stuff in the future of this show. The episodes are just character development to make clear who is who on the ship^^. Lets see what planets we will see and what kind of Teal`C/Teyla they will meet^^
February 12th, 2010 at 9:53 am
honestly the people who are clamouring for more generic gateesque scifi need to shut up… and read some decent books..
universe is fantastic I didn’t think id like it but atm im pondering how rush is gonna get back more them i am working on projects (that are way overdue).
this is not a happy series it is not sg1 all about finding new races its not startrek about diplomacy and peace…
having watched voyager recently all 7 seasons. voyager was an attempt to pull away form the drama and primary colors happiness that ds9 next gen had. it was a return to the origins explorations being alone out gunned and out manoeuvred in everything..
universe takes this one step farther, look at the setting refugees on a derelict spaceship along for the ride…
it remind me kind of Steven Baxter time ships and titan books. l very very dark and depressing.
this show has the freedom to explore humanity in a unique perspective scifi isn’t just about ray guns and space wars with badly made up aliens.
science fiction covers such a deep subject universe is the first series i’ve seen able to plumb that depth freely,
some of the useless drama and such you lot are complaining against is something called CHARACTOR DEVELOPMENT, something lacking from most shows these days..
here is the thing take 20 people from random walks of life put them on a cruise together without any amenity’s and watch what happens..
its not a east enders in space what it is is a viable and thought provoking treatise on long term isolation under extreme pressures..
I loved the first half with the well shit we have problems theme
would I like to see more in-depth sci fi aspects concerning other races yes…
do I want this to become sliders in space no
this show has a lot of promise it just needs to find a receptive audience , ones who are mature intelligent and not of the pew pew halo generation.
February 12th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Im almost positive Episode 11 will air April 2 2010. Does anyone know why they took this break? Kinda killed the interest that i had gained in SGU personally. Cant recall SG-1 or Atlantis doing this to the Stargate fanbase, why do it now!!!
February 12th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
This will cheese most of this gibbering lot off – SG1 and SGA where horribly boring ripoffs of the Star Trek franchise – overly simplified anthropological studies of cultures that all seem to live in landscapes that look a whole lot like Southern California. SGU is the first of the Stargate series that kept my interest for more than a few minutes. Lets face it BSG and FarScape where big draws for SiFi and it is looking to develop more shows like this with SGA and Caprica – the gibbering “Fanboy” lot will continue writing nasty tirade blog post in hopes of getting shows like this cancelled but all that will accomplish is to give deep hearty chuckles to smug buggers with I.Q.s above 130.
E…T…C…
February 13th, 2010 at 11:29 am
One thing I love about the internet is that so much is preserved over time. Much like all the complaining remarks about Star Trek Enterprise and BSG when they tried to change their formulas. The writers on one hand, were going for “critical acclaim” (which has little to nothing to do with the fans and what viewers need), and the studios on the other hand was trying to make sure the shows got proper exposure and marketing. But in the end, it was all about the fans and viewers, just like it is now. Stargate Universe will be cancelled after its second season and possibly before.
FACTS:
1) This show premiered at 2.3m Live+7, and by episode 10 it had steadily dropped down to only 1.3m for the mid season cliffhanger. Along with that is all the negative criticism and absence of any forthcoming “critical acclaim”.
2) Season 1 has already been filmed, edited and is in the can waiting for April. This fact has two subtexts:
a) This is to promote selling of the DVD which is flat, and is also getting negative reviews at most online retailers. b) Savvy BSG and Stargate fans realize that TPTB are copying BSG’s marketing strategy as well as DVD split season tricks, but its not working for SGU.
3) The original flippant dismissal of the Stargate fanbase by producers because of their foolhardy changes to the successful formula has been replaced with reserved reconciliation and promises of changes in the back half of season 1 and all of season 2…(this is the rub).
This show is on a much faster track for cancellation than ST: Enterprise or Defying Gravity or BSG was, because there is absolutely NO real support from the Stargate fanbase for this show. The curious drama lovers trickling in from BSG dont like SGU because the soap drama elements are nowhere near the level of BSG. The tiny group of “SGU-lovers” is nowhere large enough to support long-term airing of this show and both the Producers and the Studios know it. Viewership is so low that many cable stations have dropped it from their lineup.
So all the preposterous commentary about SGU being so “mature and gritty” will be fodder for jokes and “I told you so” blog entries to be posted after the show is cancelled. No amount of praise from the emo fanboi set is going to magically create acceptable ratings. Observably, it appears that for every 1 SGU lover, there are about 1000 Stargate fans who hate SGU. And the grave will be dug with the back half of season 1. By the time season 2 comes around, the ratings will have tanked to unacceptable levels and preparations for the show’s cancellation will be made. By the second half of season 2, the show will be choking and/or cancelled.
But these are mere words….watch the show play out and then come back to this thread. LOL
February 13th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
I am really enjoying SGU so far; the main down side is what many have been saying, this midseason gap. I am enjoying the Galactica-like drama, although I would also like to see more ’space-based’ material. For those critisizing it because it is not SG1 or SGA, I do not see the need, this series is its own series, SG1 and SGA were great, but have now been done; it is time for a new series, and that is what they are giving. I am glad they are finally involving a story line involving aliens and more space-y stuff, and I agree with a few others that have written when they said they are getting tired of the day always being saving by some type of magicly-perfect ‘treknology’ that gets everyone home at the end of the day safe in their rooms heated by the warming glow of a ZPM and an Asgard lullaby. The roughness has added a more realistic spin to the show, one of the things I am actually not enjoying are the ancient communications stones; this adds a cheap way of having a side story that I feel has actually dominated the show. Space-based drama can be fantastic as we have all seen with BSG, but this bull with the Earth ancient stones story line is dull and not needed. The stones, in my opinion, are another treknology tossed into the series for convenience. I really look forward to see where Destiny takes the crew and the series, the best thing I feel the show could do is to somehow have those stones get destroyed so the show can run on its own momentum and not rely on cameo’s from other SG shows to try and make a connection. I love the characters from SG1 and Atlantis, but those are different shows and this show, I feel, does not need cheap cameo’s when the story can carry itself.
February 13th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Hi i was just reading all your comments and stuff and i find it hillarious that people have the time to sit an argue and write like 8 paragraph thingies when they can be doing more useful things.
February 14th, 2010 at 4:10 am
@ likeiwouldactuallypostmynameinachatroom
I find it even more hilarious that most all SGU lovers usually post messages like yours having absolutely NOTHING to do with Stargate or Stargate Universe, and instead whines about other posters here or complains about people complaining. LOL.
@ Andrew
FINALLY, a person who likes SGU who can articulate exactly what he likes and does not like about the show! Perfect post there Andrew, because you are saying you like SGU for the most part, but have clearly articulated what you dont like and how you would improve the show. Like you, I love the premise of the show, with the ship being lost so far away, so many galaxies away. But then they ruin it by using these deus ex machina stones to put us on earth to see ridiculous soap opera storylines. I also love the coining of the phrase “Treknology”. SG-1 stole a lot of that Treknology from Star Trek (beaming, ships, shields, hyperspace/warp), and now they are borrowing pretty much entire body parts from BSG in an effort to be more like that show. LOL. Its already been done much better by the real BSG.
Yes, the real story is watching the big picture. Ratings are low and DVD sales are flat because most people just dont like this show. Even on Hulu where it is free, people are giving it horrible reviews. The critics do not like the show, and the reviews over at Amazon are almost entirely negative for the DVD and BluRay. I laugh at the level of denial and lowered intelligence levels of the little emo group who likes this show. Thing is, Andrew…the show will not change for the better. Of all aliens to pick, they picked the Lucian Alliance? Really? Atlantis is being treated like it never existed, along with all the cool technology they found there. I was ready for a new Stargate with more drama, but not a blatant ripoff and BAD drama on the level of a daytime soap opera. Oh well, 2 seasons tops is what I give it.
February 14th, 2010 at 6:03 am
@ Overmind One
You sound very angry and I dont blame you! I am currently studying drama at UC Santa Barbara and I hate my teachers because they dont know about science fiction. They only know old style theater and copy the style and work of crusty old authors like Shakespeare. I wanted to learn how to write science fiction but you cant learn that in a school. Just like you cant learn pop music, comedy, lyrics writing or “cool”. There is nothing mature or original about Stargate Universe. And the drama is not good either. Battlestar Galactica had good drama, but they threw it all out of balance in the last two seasons and it went downhill fast. These kids here who are defending Stargate Universe want to feel they are being sophisticated and mature by watching it. But its just a soap opera in terms of style and execution. Im sure my drama professor would give it a C- or a D.
Good messages! I like the one by Andrew too.
February 14th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
I really dont understand you guys on this forum – if you are not interested in the show, why comment on a news story about it – some people need to learn to keep thier opinions to themselves and leave us stargate universe fans in peace. I for one enjoyed them on Sky 1 and also on itunes. The blu ray is one of the most in depth behind the d
scenes box sets yet and this show proves that a concept that has been running for almost 14 years has yet to get stale.
Enjoy yourselves on this forum, people that are negative about a TV SHOW must be very petty in life itself.
February 14th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
4 months, it’s too much time, I can watch the last season of BattlestarGalactica instead(again)…
February 15th, 2010 at 12:44 am
@ michael farrar
“if you are not interested in the show, why comment on a news story about it – some people need to learn to keep thier opinions to themselves and leave us stargate universe fans in peace.”
I can see why the Stargate fans accuse the new SGU fans of being so melodramatic. It seems that many of you waste time complaining that other people are complaining. It is so hypocritical! They have been around for 15 years watching a show which has an established style and format, and then it was suddenly changed into a soap opera. From my perspective, they have more right to an opinion about Stargate than any of you new people do. They could also tell YOU to keep your opinions to yourself and to leave the Stargate franchise fans in peace. They are the vast majority, you know. Without them, this show doesnt stand a chance of survival.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Take a rain check. I never said I was a new viewer. I’ve stuck by stargate and it’s writers since it’s premiere way back in 1997. I think the mods should close this comments thread and allow us all to agree to disagree, just don’t bring others down just because you have a petty gripe. There too many people who big themselves up just because they hide behind an alias online. Bringing myself back to my original statement. Take a rain check.
February 15th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
I wouldn’t worry about it Michael it’s the same person replying to everyone under different names, including himself and he’s as nutty as a fruit cake.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Sure – blog posts will remain lingering in the internet ether for a long time but I have no fear of eating my words in the future.
I never said that shows like SGU and Caprica will not be canceled and if they do get canceled it won’t be the first time that intelligent shows failed to come up with that “lowest common denominator”, swill, formula for the “cathode ray campfire”. What I was saying is that these shows will not be canceled because of angry and misguided tirade blog post campaigns – in fact Syfi will most likely be happy to see the angry fan boys try to throw spanners into it’s machinery – at the very least it will galvanize viewer support.
I myself could care less – I don’t watch much television. I just get a good chuckle out of how something as trivial as this can cause so much anger for some.
I expect a full point form argument of how I am wrong – that kind of entertainment is priceless.
E….T….C….
February 19th, 2010 at 1:05 am
@ Dar
Just LOL!
@ Ego Martini
Its not all that complicated, really. Based on the reviews from viewers, customers of Amazon DVD and BluRay, and downward trending ratings, this show is a sinker. It does not take a quadratic equation to understand that.
And I dont watch TV at all, I simply add to my 6 terabyte home media system by recording or downloading what I like. Stargate is a 16 year old entity and this soap opera doesnt belong in the series. You are probably too young to remember, but one of the earliest James Bond movies was a comedy version of Casino Royale with David Niven. When Sean Connery took over as James Bond, the whole series became darker and grittier and the Casino Royale movie was disowned as being not part of the “real” series…until it was done recently with Daniel Craig in the “classic” fashion.
Having shared that little vignette, I say that this so-called Stargate show is being disowned by its fanbase as not being part of the “real” Stargate canon. Perhaps Devlin can do a sequel or a remake of the original movie and we get a chance for a REAL reboot? The current writers are all used up.
February 21st, 2010 at 1:12 am
funny thing is that i worked for sci fy and the season continues with rush on the planet he finds a zed pm and he fixes the ship and finds a way back onto destiny. but he wont be back on destiny for like 8 or so episodes I LOVE RUINING PLOT
February 21st, 2010 at 5:18 pm
I found SGU very depressing! SG1 & SGA were good fun Sci-Fi action series. SGU seems to be a bunch of dis-likable people stuck in what looks like a rusting oil rig. Who wants to tune in every week to watch a bunch of people you don’t like trying to put one over on each other.?
I just hope it shapes up for the second half of season one.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:57 am
“rush on the planet he finds a zed pm and he fixes the ship and finds a way back onto destiny. but he wont be back on destiny for like 8 or so episodes I LOVE RUINING PLOT”
Yawn.
So Rush comes back, and starts bickering and plotting and staring into that Ancient control panel attempting to look important, despite the fact that he has no control of the ship, its systems or its computer. Im just salivating for that, really I am.
I think season 1 is probably not going to be all that great in the second half because they cant change them. They thought they got it right so they filmed all the episodes before the first one was aired. Not that they see they made some very huge mistakes, they are hoping that the second half will get high enough ratings to make a strong argument for high advertising prices for season 2 slots. This is a horrible miscalculated error on their part. Same.
February 22nd, 2010 at 4:54 pm
I think the story of SGU isnt too bad at all,
i like it, it keeps me thinking of what is Next to come
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:42 am
I hope they don’t make the usual 9 month break when the season is over.
Go sg!
February 23rd, 2010 at 11:47 am
I have watched all of the SG series and all of the BSG, SGU is a good show, just different. The 4 months wait is really silly! What ever happened to new shows in the fall/winter months! Waiting 4 months for a new show’s second half of its first season is really really lame! Make a good product, get viewers hooked, and they will buy your friggin DVD’s!
February 24th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Okay, it appears very few people who are watching the series are really seeing everything they need to put the big picture together.
First, the ship in E10 was launched at the end of E3 from the Destiny. It is not the shuttle that Armstrong was in. They are in FTL when that small ship leaves the deck of the Destiny. If you freeze the frame when the ship rolls over and cuts to starboard, you will see the hatch that Rush is messing with when Young beats the crap out of him. I believe as do others that this is the First contact with new aliens.
Season 2 has been approved so we have a long way to go…
February 24th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
By the way…I turned 50 today and no one called to wish me happy birthday. I even sat with 3 of my friends and pulled the “Riley” saying, “It’s after midnite”. One friend said, “Does that mean that they already flew into the star?” The other said, “No it’s his birthday” but no one said happy birthday…Where’s James when you need her…
I did get a call from my bank wishing me happy birthday…
February 24th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
oh my dear god i fu**ing want to see the next episodes.
so lame that they always have to split this shit.
im still hoping some day one spaceship comes to my bedroom window and takes me all way up to the stars so that i can live all this crap.
2 episodes published in nearly 5 months thats criminal. they should get arrestet! that assholes know the story but we dont why cant they just understand this. im so tired of this. i just want to do a suicide and get my 74 virgins in heaven. god whats this all about…
and the question is will they be virgins forever?
oh goood one more thing that makes me go crazy… that sucks
February 25th, 2010 at 10:01 am
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, “alone”! We both turned 50 on the same day (feb 24). I spent my birthday at my local bar with a couple of friends, and was given a lap dance by one of the hot female bartenders (this is not a strip club!). Happy Birthday, my fellow Piscean! Im 50 now, but as long as people still keep mistaking me for 35, Im a happy camper. LOL
February 25th, 2010 at 11:23 am
I still want to know what yer man was in the brig for in ep#1> All seems forgiven on Destiny but something is going to make him crack, then what?
February 27th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
I dont know, why you think this show will be cancelled after the second season, because if the other half of the first season is action-loaded and interesting and peoples continue watching this show or start watching this show, i think it got a chance to become another wonderful Stargate show. I may seem optimistic, but i think it will be a great show and all of you folks, will watch the second part of the season one. For those who hate this show, stop watching it and stop saying that the show will be cancelled. If you hate this show, why do you care about it anyway ??? I like this show even if im a french-canadian and i needed to watch it on the internet. See yaa Folks.
February 28th, 2010 at 2:16 am
@ Ben
“I dont know, why you think this show will be cancelled after the second season, because if the other half of the first season is action-loaded and interesting and peoples continue watching this show or start watching this show, i think it got a chance to become another wonderful Stargate show.”
Why do I say that? I say it because based on the ratings and the ratings trend, as well as the reasons for that trend, that this show cannot recover from the damage done by the writing and the producers. This entire season was filmed, edited and produced and in the can shortly after the airing of Air in October. This means that no changes can be made, and no rewrites can be done. So, the same product which was presented to us in October (and soundly rejected by its fans), is the very same product which will be brought to us in April.
Season 2, however, has not commenced production. That means that they can change the formula to be more like that of the original Stargate shows. But the caveat there is the first season blunders. This cast has no chemistry between the characters, or the audience. We cannot rally behind any of them PRECISELY because of the overdone backstories created in season 1.
Chloe cannot undo her catfight in a bar while drunk in another person’s body. Scott cannot undo the baby on earth, and the communication stones have already been used in such an egregious fashion that you cant just “undo” it. The show is doomed, and I base that on the ratings pattern from the premiere to the half season mark. When the second half is complete, that picture will be sharply in focus. Lets see who comes out correct, shall we?
March 1st, 2010 at 6:37 pm
I haven’t had the chance to read this entire thread… Just enough to see a fair amount of people disliking this show… Personally, I loved the writing and the acting and the story lines… The first ten episodes felt almost like one long episode that solidifies the story and plot… It felt real and visceral and I got wrapped up in the characters individual dramas…
Anyone who has a problem with this show, as far as my experience with conversations I’ve had with others, appears to be the lack of space shooter/alien enemy action… This to me is short sighted and escapist… Who can really relate with space alien shooter action? The stories being told in SGU are more serious and engaging than almost anything from the other series in the SG mythos and I’ve been a fan of every series starting from when SG1 started on showtime… Seen every episode of every series and loved most of them…
Nothing is ever going to be just like SG1’s lightning in a bottle mixture of story, comedy and character development, but do we really want the same series over and over or do we want to be challenged and engaged? I think it’s a credit to the series developers to actually assume the level of intellect and growth of their viewers would be ready for a more developed, well written, character driven story and bot just regurgitate the same old same old just to appease those scared to change and grow…
Love this series… Hope it has a 6 year run… Or at least until the story is resolved properly and not rushed… It would be a shame, as far as I’m concerned, if they placated the fans of ’splosions just to gain audience… It’s the difference between art and advertising I suppose…
March 4th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
10 episodes are just aired to see how people will react on them
sory for bad english but i think you understand
March 4th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
@ Dar (refer January 24, 2010 in this thread)
LETS REFRESH YOUR MEMORY:
“@Kobe
LOL. Being nominated for a VES award is not at all related to the horrible writing for this show. Its a visual effects award, and SGU will not win it. Did you see who its up against? Just LOL.
I think visual effects awards are quite important for science fiction shows I mean c’mon, it’s not going to be nominated for a Golden Globe or a BAFTA is it. It’s up against BSG, Defying Gravity, Fringe and V, a couple of those are pilots and BSG has already won it so I think SGU has a good chance. I don’t know why you are LOLing so much about this.”
LOLOL!!!!!
I was LOLing about it because I could see well in advance that SGU would not win the VES award it was nominated for, and had no chance of winning it, yet you could not see this. You cannot see the utter epic failure that SGU is either. So, as I said, SGU would not win the VES awards and they didnt. Battlestar won it, as they should have.
Just wait until the other awards shows make theor rounds. SGU wont make many of the nomination lists, and if it does it wont win. It sucks plain and simple.
@ Crawfather
“Anyone who has a problem with this show, as far as my experience with conversations I’ve had with others, appears to be the lack of space shooter/alien enemy action… This to me is short sighted and escapist… Who can really relate with space alien shooter action?”
OMFG.
The problems with this show are far FAR more numerous than those you listed, and since when did Stargate fans need or express a desire to “relate to” the aliens or characters? Who can relate to space alien shooter action? I would answer that with about a bajillion Stargate fans who have been watching that space alien shooter action for the past 15 years…LOL. You claim you loved the first two series, and you also love SGU? Not really possible…since SGU is a soap opera belonging to a completely different genre of show.
“The first ten episodes felt almost like one long episode that solidifies the story and plot… It felt real and visceral and I got wrapped up in the characters individual dramas…”
BAHAHAHAHA!
Mkay…I hear they are going to come out with a new “action” game called Stargate Destiny where there are no weapons in the game, you just run up to characters and hit F6 to hug them, then F7 to comfort them, or F8 to bicker with them. If you make it to the Stones Room, you can teleport to Mommy’s Kitchen, Telford’s House, or free roam in a mall as Chloe where you can buy powerups. Throughout the game will be long cutscenes with shaky cameras and all, telling you about the backstory of each character. We hear about lost puppies, and dew on spiderwebs, and unicorns. Gonna pre-order it? LOL
March 5th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Hey Guys, it is my first post on this site cause i just spent 3 hours ( yes… 3 hours!) of my precious useless time off work to read through all of your comments and actually i am a little amused.
I am to say first hopefully not that emo fanboy you always talk about Oblivion / KOBE / Whateveryouightcallyourselfnow. Cause i am a just about your age german policeofficer and yes i needed to go to college for that
I too am one of those guys crazy enough to buy every SG dvd and watch the whole thing since the first (and very fantastic) Movie with mister God praise him Kurt Russel. I really loved it and for that started to watch the series too when it launched.
At first i was a little confused at the time because the Movie was actually full of character development and Drama ( Yes it was and if you rewatch it you wil realize that too) and the series was more of a comedy after the first 5 Eps or so. But I stuck with it and so my heart grew to love it.
Now i Watch the new Show and I like it, too. It is a new approach to an old ( you have to admit 15 years is life 150 years for a franchise) concept. I like it and I know you will tell me that most of the fans do not and that they have crappy ratings and so on like you did almost 50 times now but i will still like it. I love taking things from a different angle and i have to do that a lot in my work, too like you as a self proclaimed ( no offense!) scientist have to do, too.
And about that not being scientific. Well the concept of the stones and the (sorry i am german i do not exactly know what they call it) Warp drive is taken from either the original series or from Atlantis. So complaining about that not to be scientific would be probably useless concerning this thread ( stargate has left science long time ago) arright… you are right to say that the stones suck and so on cause i think so too, but i also think that there will come up changes in the series within the next 2-3 eps. It was the same with atlantis and the original series. Especially the original was hell boring at the beginning and do you remember the Helmets of the Goua’Ould? so Awesome ^^. But it changed. I think they set a good ground for upcoming tragedys and aliens and ship to ship battles and so on and even alien sex if some of the fans want to see it… the series is still new so everything can happen.
And to come back to the topic. I also hate the 4 month brake -.-
but they do it everytime an i would have been surprised if they didn’t do it on this show so i was kind of prepared for it… but still sucks.
March 6th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
The Destiny’s crew already noticed that there are the wrong people in the wrong place.. soo??
… use the ancient communication device to change body with just ANYONE that has expirience with ancient technology instead of some random soldier that CANT help in ANY way?!
they have 3 stones? oh fine.. mckay, carter and zelenka.. problem solved.
Quote from SGA: ” Hey, I’m Dr. Rodney McKay, all right? “Difficult” takes a few seconds; “impossible,” a few minutes. ”
i like the new show, even though it took me quite a while to accept the new characters and way the story is beeing told (not much stargate feeling until now, except there is a stargate on the ship.. and Eli looks like a space tourist..actually he could be that tourist of the discworld fantasy books :p its sad)
1) they should throw that communication device out of the “window”, literaly!
im not sure if i want this show to continue or not.. its entertaining and refreshing on the one hand (you think that too, otherwise you wouldnt look up the next air date :p) and disappointing on the other hand as it feels more like a Teen show with chloe and eli and that other military main character (which i dont even know the name anymore after that midseason-killer-break!)
to be honest i dont see the future for this show, as it fails to give that feeling that the other stargate shows gave.. anyone remember when O’Neil told the asgards that the humans have still a lot to learn, but they now must accept that we are part of it.. and the epic moment when asgard, the free jaffa and earth guarded that huge stargate when the ori attacked? its not just about the fight, but about those epic moments that make stargate unique for me..
so 2) find a way to deactivate that silly FTL-jump-timer..
reminds me of something again: Return to Monkey Island Speedrun Flash-Movie! “OH aliens. Hi aliens. lets be friends. cool. got to go, will never come back. wooosh FTL.”
seriously every encounter is worthless, unless they are so advanced that they can travel where ever they want but then they wouldnt fit in any stargate stories (remember that all advanced civilizations die or never appear again and advanced technology always get lost or broken due to any kind of problem :p) lets just hope they take the distance as excuse to show us some interesting planets with very advanced civilisations (as they couldnt visit earth anyway and so it wouldnt matter.. oh wait they could give blueprints.. well then they could atleast be either ignorant or hostile :p)
March 11th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
hi all, to bad that there are ppl who dont like it (yet), and ppl that never will,anyway i like the show and am curious where it will take us.
March 13th, 2010 at 8:03 am
looks like in the 11th episode there will be some ass wooping action
anyway, the creators of SG SG1/A made the series positive and “bright” the characters allways won and so on and in comparison SGU it is just too dramatic and many of stargate fans might not like it
March 13th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
i love it :3 i hope its gonna have a lil more action but i love it, seriously its different from the originals series but just tell it a story continue, Richard dean anderson is to old to play a role like he was playing, i know it s a big change but dont see it like that,HMMM
i cant wait until episode 11 come out :S i hope rush will find a way to ftl or hyperpropulse trough the space with that alien ship and get back to the destiny, or find an alien and help them to destroy rest of ppl, or anyway… (i just know that hes in true love with the destiny and nothing wil stop him xD)))
March 14th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
I really hope that SGU returns in April. Maybe that so call wrecked alien space ship they found on the last planet is not really wrecked. maybe the alien crew were out investigating the planet and will return now and discover Dr. Rush. I am quite sure that before the end of the season Dr. Rush will return to Destiny. As for the T&A, I love it and wish for more nudity. I also wish for more Scifi stuff. With luck Lt rack will loose her tee shirt.
March 15th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Why do you think they are waiting so long. i really really want to see new episodes. but also i do get kinda confused. in the time episode, everyone gets sick and dies, but in the next episode they are all fine. ????????????. are they going to come back to that or whats going on?????
March 15th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Ho hum…this trailer they showed is nothing but another cheap marketing trick. I read the synopsis for the episode, and it turns out that this is yet ANOTHER lame communications stones episode, but aliens are involved this time. Chloe is kidnapped, and aliens board the ship and there is an attack on the Destiny. But the presence of aliens does not insure a good episode.
Also, why doesnt MGM clearly state that the trailer is actually a montage of scenes from SEVERAL episodes in the back half of season 1? Kudos to the producers of the trailer, since it is indeed a great trailer! But like the trailer for “Air”, when the episode finally airs, it will feel NOTHING like the trailer.
Its a shame, really. They could have filmed only the first 10 episodes and left the others open so they could be tweaked according to the reception of the viewing audience. But instead, they filmed, edited and finalized ALL of the season 1 episodes in October. What will air on April 2 will be the same exact product we received in October, with no rewrites or adjustments whatsoever. They are “in the can” and have been since the beginning. This is NOT a good thing! They thought for sure they had it right, and they were wrong.
By episode 13, the ratings red alert sirens will be wailing loudly.
March 19th, 2010 at 6:14 am
I am a (sci-fi fan) and i agree that sgu did’nt live up to sg1 or sga but i say thank you for that cos the last 2 series of sg1 were cringe worthy. The term floggin a dead horse comes to mind and atlantis was goin the same way. Sgu had to be differant to keep this franchise that i love and ave watched from the film through the entirity of both series alive. It may not sit well with some people but i say give it a chance tey’ve the boring character devlopement out the way now and yes it was boring but more importantly it was necesarry. I personally ave high hopes for the future.
p.s
to all those who are ripping it to shreds before it’s even got goin ur not true stargate fans if you were you would realise that sgu is the only way to save the show i LOVE so much from slippin into the realms nay from dragging back from the realm of tedious saw it all before clone television.
March 20th, 2010 at 11:51 am
I have just found this forum whilst looking for release dates for the rest of the SGU series, and I think its a shame that the two schools of thought here believe that their arguments are mutually exclusive.
For me the Science Fiction genre has a massive scope more perhaps than any other genre. With science fiction we can enjoy almost any literary landscape from time travellers in the streets of 16th centaury Italy to spaceship battles around a dying star. Similarly our storylines can encompass the whole gamut of human experience from heroes desperately saving the galaxy from total annihilation to two star crossed lovers trying to make a relationship work while worlds apart.
Personally I like almost all aspects of SciFi and I’ll watch/read depending on my mood, sometimes I’ll want to watch space battles against ravenous alien hoards and sometimes I want to see something that deals with the pure science.
I appreciate Overmind’s comments that the SG franchise has been mainly about SG teams shooting and “one lining” their way through the baddies to save the world in the nick of time. So I get his frustration that SGU is more about the human experience, I disagree with his comments however that SGU isn’t really SciFi but a soap opera set in a spaceship. I for one like SGU I feel that it has a dark gritty realism that keeps me interested. My one gripe with the rest of the SG franchise (i am a biiig fan though) is that they sacrificed some of the realism after the first SG1 season by having all aliens speak English and having Carter or McKay instantly able to operate alien tech. SGU is a fresh perspective, not being able to access all the ships systems is a far more realistic plot and hopefully these aliens that’ll appear in episode 11 will be just that. Alien
I’m rambling on a bit now so here’s the summary SGU will never be everything to everybody, its a different type of SciFi that appeals to a different type of fan. I sincerely hope that it keeps a core group of fans that can help push it into season 2 and beyond
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:11 am
First the Suits over at Syfy have created an identity crisis for the channel and seem to have no idea where they are taking the network. Someone called the new shows sighfi and maybe the correct spelling for the network really is Sighfi sounds the same as Syfy and Scifi but really means slow moving shows that makes one sleep. Stargate Universe really is SIGHFI so far, only time and new episodes will define that series for the rest of this season and next season. Is it too late to save SGU? Maybe or maybe not but the franchise has damaged any locality long time supporters have for the franchise. I know I have lost all respect and good will towards Mr Wright and they will have to prove the show is worthy of my time to watch it, before all this disrespect he has shown towards folks like me that are only guilty of supporting the franchise for over 15+ years. Before anything Stargate got my time and support but now if the entire franchise fails well “They reap what they have sown”.
Caprica is also suffering from the SUITS’s mentality at the network. I am interested in the story but am struggling with the way the show is proceeding. I just have a problem following these very slow to tell the story kind of shows. I have a dvr programed to get the entire run for the show ,so I am committed to Caprica, but SGU not so much anymore.
March 22nd, 2010 at 7:32 am
I hope Dr Rush comes back with the aliens in fullforce and kills the crew on destiny
March 22nd, 2010 at 2:23 pm
I hope the next series will be better that the first, again an American series where the soundtrack obliterates the dialog of the actors. Carlyle is totally miscast in this series. The first series could have been condensed into four episodes.
It was boring, confusing, one moment the character was in deep space, then the next the character was back on earth. It was if the scriptwriter had dropped the pages of the script onto the floor then dished them out to the actors without checking for continuity.
Previous ‘Stargate’ series have been exellent, SG1 in particular, Stargate Atlantis grew on you after a while.
March 26th, 2010 at 3:48 am
I read that some people think that Rush is a boring, or perhaps bad actor. I completely disagree. He, although the obvious badguy in the series, is interestingly devious and cunning. The fact that he’s scottish, makes him even more rare to see in an American TV show. He’s very much a breath of fresh air.
Speaking of interesting characters, has anyone noticed how Eli is purely there for the vast majority of viewers to relate to? **SPOILER FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN’T SEEN THE FIRST EPISODE** He’s just an ordinary kid who cracked a code, in a game, based on sci fi (stargate concept itsself). Now. If you watch stargate series. YOU’D be playing that game.
He’s a nerd, we’re all nerds for watching sci fi. However I love it, and i’m sure you do to. As for the series… I would like to see more action outside of the Destiny, more immediate threat to the crew, and more explosions damnit!
March 26th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Well, a SciFi show doesn’t have to be just about space ships, phasers, aliens and military conflicts in space, as well as it doesn’t have to be about just relationships and traditional character development. In my view, a great SciFi show would have all the above elements and articulate some of them more than the others. SGU may be heading into that direction, but it’s not clear yet. She show isn’t mature enough. From the trailer, it looks like there’s some kind of major development that we are going to witness on April 2. I’d like to see a good drama intertwined with action and adventure. I certainly don’t want to see any cheesy melodrama in this franchise.
March 26th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
I thought Stargate Atlantis was the best one so far. Stargate Universe has potential but as in a previous post characters switching from earth and back again takes away from it. Not sure where its going but apparently Stargate Atlantis is done and this is the next series so lets see what they can do with it! Considering this and Sons of Anarchy on FX is probably the only tv I watch. I would hate to see it get chopped.
March 27th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
I think that Rush will find a way into the alien ship and save who is ever inside. He will then join their race and become an enemy of SGU. After all, no one trusts him and He really does have a secret agenda. He would hate it if SGU earth fired him and sent him packing and they are trying to get him off Destiny. So again, I think he becomes an enemy.
March 27th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
amazing how narrow most of the views here are. SGU is honest and one of the better social mirrors we have had for a long time.
You have a show with (Destiny) a breakaway republic in control of unknown power and technology in conflict with, and isolated from, the very powers,(Earth) that created the situation. A republic where military and civilian factions are constantly trying to co-habit a defined area.
You have knowledge (Rush) isolated from the republic and left abandoned in possession of more unknown technology. Willing and able to become a true threat to the Destiny and to Earth
You have numerous self serving factions all vying for power and all aware of limited resources
SGU is great, its food! its not chewing gum like the rest of SG
March 28th, 2010 at 12:05 am
We dont care about a flippin social mirror we are looking for an escape from the bore of society and this mundane reality, that’s what entertainment is about. Not about seeing the same crud we see everyday mirrored into a sci-Fi show.
Dave
March 28th, 2010 at 1:29 am
science fiction has always been political in spirit. It began as a form of communication that wrote its own rules and SGU seems to be remembering that.
Think about Col Young, now when he has a meeting at SG command, he now controls the meetings. He is resisting the chain of command. We need to help soldiers to think like that if freedom is to have a chance in the real world. And yes i think it matters. There is plenty of escapism out there. Not everything has to be supersized.
March 28th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
I think the acting is very good, the atmosphere of the ship comes across well and basically everything’s a really high standard.
The only thing I miss is that it’s almost nothing like Sci-Fi! I mean what happened? Everyone’s having an affair, is all about relationships and this guy did this and that girl did that – It’s almost like a SOAP Opera!
If I wanted to watch a SOAP I’d watch Eastenders, Home and Away or Opera!
Come on guys DON’T LET US DOWN!!
March 28th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
@lostdog
OMG, your name here is most apropos! You sound like you just stumbled into the Stargate world from some other show far far away…probably on the Soap Channel (is there one?). You simply have NO IDEA what a “socisl mirror” is, if you are saying that anything or any character in SGU resembles anyone in real life.
“amazing how narrow most of the views here are. SGU is honest and one of the better social mirrors we have had for a long time.”
HAHAHA! Perhaps BSG (in the beginning), and most definitely Babylon 5 and perhaps DS9, but SGU? LOL! Who in your life sleeps with other men’s wives, gets mad at a girlfriend who screws her boyfriend in her absense…but she herself is screwing somebody else on a ship? I am a military veteran. I dont know what those dudes on that ship are supposed to be, but there certainly is no soldier who could get away with such lack of decorum and not be courts martialed. Let alone ordered to such a sensitive assignment. The show is laughably absurd in every respect.
“You have a show with (Destiny) a breakaway republic in control of unknown power and technology in conflict with, and isolated from, the very powers,(Earth) that created the situation. A republic where military and civilian factions are constantly trying to co-habit a defined area.”
WTF? Breakaway WHAT? I want some of whatever you are smoking. These people are on the ship because they dialed a Stargate address which they knew would take them there. Earth created the OPPORTUNITY. You sound like you think this is BSG or some other show.
“You have knowledge (Rush) isolated from the republic and left abandoned in possession of more unknown technology. Willing and able to become a true threat to the Destiny and to Earth”
JUST LOLOLOLOLOL! What republic?
“You have numerous self serving factions all vying for power and all aware of limited resources
SGU is great, its food! its not chewing gum like the rest of SG”
OMG…so you are the future of Stargate fans? Please shoot me now.
March 29th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
i love SG always have. Science Fiction is a lot bigger field than american TV presents it to be. BSG was agood attempt but generally, as mentioned previously, most SG and other tv is chewing gum. Harmless product that can be consumed endlessly with little to no benefit or affect. You see I was an adult when the first SG movie was made, when the tv series was not even a pilot, so have a fair amount of sci-fi experience.
I also have a life full of varied influences and i will gladly say as creators of a political/social commentary, the writers of SGU are making an effort to wake you all up. This effort is being meet by many supposed fans of science fiction with the expected ignorant responses.
I am glad to see you expressing your views whilst you still have the freedom to do so, but perhaps you should try to understand the comments not simply refute them. All writing is an allegory of an event or experience. TV is no different but sadly the entertainment industry ‘alien invasion bloodlust’ has replaced the Sci-fi genre origins of political, social and intellectual revolution. SGU is a brave, albeit slow moving, call to freedom
March 29th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
@lostdog
BSG was not science fiction, first of all. It was a drama set in space…just juts SGU. There is a HUGE difference. Babylon 5 was science fiction drama with probably the best balance I have seen ever done on television. Same with DS9.
Like you, I was also a grown adule when the first Stargate movie came out. I am also old enough to remember watching Star Trek like on NBC when it was being aired in 1966, so my science fiction experience goes WAY back. My science fiction library has THOUSANDS of books in it. Having said that, I can say without a doubt that SGU is not science fiction. Its a soap opera set in space. Here is the definition of science fiction:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/science+fiction
Science Fiction –
“: fiction dealing principally with the impact of actual or imagined science on society or individuals or having a scientific factor as an essential orienting component”
As such, SGU does not really fall within that definition. But lets look at the definition of soap opera:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soap+opera
Soap Opera -
“1 a : a serial drama performed originally on a daytime radio or television program and chiefly characterized by tangled interpersonal situations and melodramatic or sentimental treatment b : a series of real-life events resembling a soap opera
2 : the melodrama and sentimentality characteristic of a soap opera ; also : something (as a novel) having such qualities”
SGU does clearly fall into the definition of soap opera, and that is why it has become overwhelmingly unpopular with not only Stargate fans, but science fiction fans in general. The show has failed in ratings, DVD sales, critical acclaim, and every measure which judges shows. I accept the fact that you like it, and that there is a small group of people who like it. But then again, there are people who like prison pen pals, who are into being tied up and beaten, and into bestiality.
SGU is crap, and will not last past season 2.
March 30th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Overmind one, I agree that SGU does not yet fall into the category of science fiction and as a life long science fiction fan I am feeling the loss, especially as I’m a fan of both the previous incarnations of Stargate.
It’s obvious that the creators of SGU have used BSG as a template and for us SG fans it’s not really working, I like the template, I find the template and the character arc interesting, I just want MORE science fiction. BSG and now Caprica are managing it, but there has been little in the way of SF in SGU thus far.
However the foundations for a good series are there. The characters and the situation they find themselves in is nicely established and the episode “Time” delved comfortably into ready established SG territory, but this ship is galaxy’s away, it would be nice to explore this new territory and do something new with it.
Also these mid season breaks are annoying; Caprica is now taking a break until the Autumn! post writers strike, there seems to be a reticence to commission new TV series, so this new wave of commissioning part of a series and giving the green light once it’s a proven entity is becoming norm and I for one have to say I’m hating it, and can see why people are losing interest in what could be great television. Fox have shown pure cowardice in the face of good science fiction in (I have to say) the last twenty years, starting with the TV series of Alien Nation and more recently with Joss Whedon’s Firefly and Dollhouse, and now in the wake of the writers strike and recession MGM have jumped on the band wagon.
Science fiction is profitable, if it weren’t it wouldn’t be on television and Stargate went further then most television shows to prove this. It’s about time Television production companies got behind the makers of these excellent TV shows, because the fans are already there.
March 31st, 2010 at 2:39 pm
yeah , you’re right, a space ship billions of light years from earth that jumps in and out of faster then light speeds with an ability to activate wormholes, shuttle between planets, has experienced temporal anomolies, interstallar communication and now the finding of an alien ship of unknown origin obviously has nothing to do with science fiction
March 31st, 2010 at 10:47 pm
I think it’s appropriate to have some political drama and political suspense in this particular setting (considering you’re millions of lightyears away from Earth and have no real way of contacting Earth and getting supplies). However, I believe there’s almost too much drama and politics in it to the point to where it drags on and seems forever. I’ve really enjoyed SGA because of the Space Battles. I hated Battlestar Galactica because it was all love/politicial drama with very few space scenes. I thought the concept of BSG was great, but like this series it just drags on and on. What I like about it from a different view is that is has more depth in the characters themselves. I just wish they had more intense twists and turns with some actual space dilemas with hostiles. Just my opinion though:). I like the series as of now.
April 3rd, 2010 at 3:10 am
EAU MY GOD. This show had the nerve to come out with the crap that was “Space” after being gone for months and ending with such dismal ratings? Just LOL. The show is only going downwards from here, and that puts it about ground level by the end of the season. Next seasin will be measuring UNDER ground (as in grave), each season digging ever so deeper. Awful. And I had such high hopes.
April 3rd, 2010 at 7:21 am
hi!
does anyone know when will the 12th episode come out??
April 4th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
space wasnt that bad you got your huge space battle and funky aliens different from anything weeve seen
and the method used to bring back rush was viable b+ episode id say
April 17th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
@ perkele
HI! Does anyone really care? Episode 13 was even worse. Just wait till you see how they do “the return of Daniel Jackson” in episode 14! Not looking good.
@ jereth
The so called “battle” in Space was boring. Look to Stargate SG-1 for good space battles with huge motherships and SG ships using beam weapons and FLYING THEM. Oh boy, there is LOTS of stuff we are seeing in Stargate Universe that is different from anything we have seen in Stargate.
The show is melting down.
April 19th, 2010 at 10:48 am
if you hate the show so much overmind then do everyone a favor and stop posting here
faith was odd but intriguing divided was interesting reminicent of crimson tide
as for anything with danial jackson thell use the stones to get the best ancient guy around to help
is it perfect no but ill tell you what ive enjoyed universe more then i enjoyied most of sg1 season 9-10 and parts of season 2-5
April 19th, 2010 at 11:27 am
I have to concur with ‘jereth.’ If the show is such an issue, with anyone, what is the point of stating what’s wrong with the show, but rather, find a great resource where folk are of the same mind as you.
And sure, it ain’t perfect, but ya know what, it’s getting better, and it’s all we have for a Friday night… that is, until they move it to Tuesdays. (And Bruce smacks head in disbelief while hitting the enter key.)
April 19th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
amen jereth… hahaha…
April 22nd, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Congrats to Robert Cooper on his WGC award for SGU’s Time, well deserved although I did have to watch that one twice before I figured out what the heck was going on at the end.
May 3rd, 2010 at 9:30 am
hell yeah bruce ! im with you man , if you dont like the show dont comment, i think its great everything is suspence , no cheesy special effects and the story of each character unfolding is amazing !! the best part is the mystery that surrounds destiny and just about every planet it stops at , it doesnt need tons of freaky aliens and space battles !! anyone got any ideas about the perfect planet apparently made by a genesis-like machine ?/ and the spire that just lights up ? id love to hear what people think ?
May 6th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Just thought i’d drop in and let the doom merchants know that SGU Episode Lost just hit the No1 spot on UK itunes Top Downloads above Glee, V and 24.
Oh and 17 Leo Award nominations.
May 7th, 2010 at 12:09 am
@jereth and Bruce Simmons…just LOL!
I am far too analytical and logical to do the mental contortions necessary for this show to be entertaining or intriguing. And the validation for seeing the utter pointlessness of Stargate Universe is being meted out by the ratings, the ratings trend for the entire season so far (which is falling below that of SGA’s 5th season). Shrinking viewership = falling ratings = trouble.
I do get it that there are fans like yourselves who like the show. But unlike you, I acknowledge the fact that only the RATINGS count in the world of TPTB. If the ratings continue in this fashion, the show will not live beyond season 2. Indeed, if they fall below 1million for any episode, Syfy will consider cancallation. This is not based on my disdain for the show, its pure economics. Each episode of SGU costs more than 1million more than an episode of SGA, and the ratings are almost on part at the moment, but are likely to end up with lower average ratings than the 5th year of Atlantis which was being used as the benchmark.
Attempting to “shush” me because you want to remain in denial is amusing. I have as much right to speak my mind on this forum as you do. If you dont wish to read it, than YOU can move on to a more closed community. Might I suggest Gateworld SGU forums? For a “thinking person” whose logic reveals the reasons for this show’s overall failure as clearly as the Sun, the ratings and swift demise of this show is no mystery. You can fins us at http://www.sgusucks.com
May 7th, 2010 at 12:17 am
@ Dar
Just thought i’d drop in and let the doom merchants know that SGU Episode Lost just hit the No1 spot on UK itunes Top Downloads above Glee, V and 24.
Oh and 17 Leo Award nominations.
LOL.
Oh, and lets not forget to tell the readers that the Leo awards are for shows ONLY shot in British Columbia, and that those awards must be registered by the producers for nominations. In other words, they must nominate themselves. Its an award for shows taped in BC only, not even the entire country. It is to be expected to have a bunch of nominations and wins. Of all the shows, including other categories, Stargate is clearly the one with the biggest budget.
Be honest and take a look at the competition and youll realize that Stargate is way above the others. Not being nominated is impossible, and winning is almost a given only by spending their budget the right way.
And being a download on iTunes is irrelevant to the survival of the show. The ONLY things that count are:
1) Live+SD, HH, 18-49 viewership ratings as measured by Nielsen
2) Sales of ancillary products like DVDs, BluRay, Collections, Boxsets, Calendars, shirts, etc.
3) Critical acclaim by a selected group of critics and reviewers consulted by TPTB.
By these measures, the show has already failed in the expected time window. Therefore, while it is still being aired at the moment, an unfortunate downturn in the main ratings category could even spell a mid-season cancellation suring the midseason break of season 2. This is reality, folks! Not SGU.
May 7th, 2010 at 12:18 am
@ Dar
Just thought i’d drop in and let the doom merchants know that SGU Episode Lost just hit the No1 spot on UK itunes Top Downloads above Glee, V and 24.
Oh and 17 Leo Award nominations.
LOL.
Oh, and lets not forget to tell the readers that the Leo awards are for shows ONLY shot in British Columbia, and that those awards must be registered by the producers for nominations. In other words, they must nominate themselves. Its an award for shows taped in BC only, not even the entire country. It is to be expected to have a bunch of nominations and wins. Of all the shows, including other categories, Stargate is clearly the one with the biggest budget.
Be honest and take a look at the competition and youll realize that Stargate is way above the others. Not being nominated is impossible, and winning is almost a given only by spending their budget the right way.
And being a download on iTunes is irrelevant to the survival of the show. The ONLY things that count are:
1) Live+SD, HH, 18-49 viewership ratings as measured by Nielsen
2) Sales of ancillary products like DVDs, BluRay, Collections, Boxsets, Calendars, shirts, etc.
3) Critical acclaim by a selected group of critics and reviewers consulted by TPTB.
By these measures, the show has already failed in the expected time window. Therefore, while it is still being aired at the moment, an unfortunate downturn in the main ratings category could even spell a mid-season cancellation during the midseason break of season 2. This is reality, folks! Not SGU.
May 7th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Overmind One:
That’s kind of freaky timing on your part… I was just going to point out that the ratings are the make-it or break-it parameter for any show. Hence, great point.
But ratings are set (I AM NOT TAKING A SHOT AT YOU with this statement) by the folks who eat up reality TV and plots that have high levels of action, moderate story and super quick resolutions. In other words, quickly entertaining spots that don’t require complex involvement.
I’ve seen incredible television series take the ratings hit and die, because the Nielsen families aren’t interested.
… I don’t shush people. I just ask questions that spark thought.
Personally, I like the differences people demonstrate. Sometimes my mind / opinion can be changed because when I see a different opinion, and someone tosses out an engaging and well thought out reason why, I’m always willing.
With that said, SGU is spitting out some seriously well interwoven plots these days…
Best Regards gang!
May 12th, 2010 at 4:28 am
Yes and that just gives it more kudos as far as I’m concerned, Canadians make superior science fiction.
As for Itunes downloads being irrelevant.. well, I’m a pretty regular person and I haven’t bought a DVD or CD or Video Tape or Gramophone from Amazon or anywhere else for over two years.
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:38 pm
I have been a SG fan since the original movie, love SG1 & SGA, but was so SORELY disappointed in SGU after I saw the season 1 episode with the lesbian lovers. That completely ruined the show for me and I have quit watching and never went back.
I don’t like gay scenes in my entertainment. That is my way and my right. That being said, I’m not a gay basher. I just don’t want to watch gay scenes.
I think in order to appease both lifestyles there should be “strait” and “gay” versions so neither side is discriminated against.
Television is not what it used to be. 3 minutes of show and 7 minutes of commercials. How can anyone be entertained watching this?
August 24th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Wow! I didn’t realize we were getting 3 minutes these days???
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:14 pm
just got to the 10th episode of s2 so just wandering if there will be a mid season break in this 1 as well if so that suxs arse this season has really developed into something good really want more and now .
December 11th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Are you sure you have the dates correct for the release of stargate universe episode 11? You have the release date set as April 2010, surely this cant be right.
December 13th, 2010 at 12:29 am
To Mike:
Hi,
This one is an old piece of news
The episodes 11-20 of the season 2 of Stargate Universe will be aired in spring 2011, please read the post here:
http://www.scifiscoop.com/news/stargate-universe-will-the-new-episodes-be-aired/#more-24871
December 14th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Spring? well they took the piss one step to far on that one, Immediately lost all interest, switching to History channel instead… Bye Bye Syfi..Take some basic marketing lessons willya
January 21st, 2011 at 7:48 am
I have read somewhere that the break between the eisodes is so long because of the “Stargate Extinction” project. MGM is again functional. They are starting shooting new James Bond and stargate extinction I mentioned before.