‘Stargate: SG1′ and ‘Stargate: Atlantis’ Movies on Hold
This entire year has been filled with talk of the impending Stargate: SG1 and Stargate: Atlantis films (the latter titled Stargate: Extinction). At one point sources indicated the SG1 movie would start filming before the year was out, and at another that both movies might be filmed back to back.
Stargate fans will be disappointed to here both movies are now on hold.
Stargate Universe executive producer Robert C. Cooper told Sci Fi Wire:
“We’re ready to go,” Cooper said “We’re just waiting for the right opportunity. We want to be successful with it. The studio wants to be successful, and we really don’t want to proceed with something in the wrong climate, which I think financially it is right now.”
He also confirmed that the Atlantis movie takes place shortly after the end of season five and that the SG-1 movie takes place sometime in between when the SG-1 movies left off and when Stargate Universe begins.”
That is, if and when they happen.
In the meantime, Stargate fans will have to make do with Stargate Universe which kicks off Friday October 2, 2009 at 9pm.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:25 am
I was just wondering about the SG1 movie yesterday, I guess this answers my questions. Bummer
August 14th, 2009 at 1:51 am
Bummer’s the word.
August 14th, 2009 at 2:59 am
Gutted! Was so looking 4ward to them!
August 14th, 2009 at 3:29 am
Oh that’s just horrendous. After Continuum being so incredibly awesome I want more. Please please please say **** the economy and just make em!
August 30th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
I hope the stargate Atlantis and SG1 movies make it. They were both great shows, I wonder why there is any kind of problem, seeing how popular they are ,not to mention the countless awards they both have won. Why did Atlantis get cancelled anyway, SCI-FI still plays Atlantis and SG1 episodes everday and night.
September 12th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
The economy is a convenient lie being used by this bunch. Sci Fi movies in Wide release this summer have done a smashing business. Something else is behind this delay and per usual us fans just have to wait and wait and wait. We should stop supporting these people at NBC/SyFY and Universal. How stupid do they think we are?
Meanwhile back at the SyFy farm the ever so stupid “Warehouse 13″ is just rolling in the ratings. Can’t believe it. I really can’t. Must be a bunch of 8 to 10 year olds watching this remake of “Friday the 13th the Series”.
I’m happy that BBC is finally releasing more SCI FI to America. Torchwood, Being Human and several more are coming are way. It is nice to know that someone will always be there to fill the gap when American TV lets us down, as they always do.
October 14th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
I hope they have both movies come soon like 2010 if its like 2012-13 before they come out they are going to lose a lot of fans. And how can they say that the new movie childen of the gods is even new, i dont see any difference. Its just the first and second episode all over again.
lets all hope that they make more then just 2 more movies out of this. they can do so much with it.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:46 am
All the above are quite right. I live in England, but I am a bag fan of Atlantis, mainly because of its clever scripts (it has far fewer duff episodes than most sci-fi series) and the writers’ shrewd sense of the messy nature of reality (turning loveable Carson into Josef Mengele in the ‘Michael’ episode, for instance). Which is why I suspect it was cancelled. Too clever for its own good.
I am pretty aggreived at the cancellation of the movie. Economic downturn, my foot! Why can’t they just be honest with us, for once?
I have a dismal feeling we will never see the film at all. Pity MGM doesn’t flog the franchise to someone who will actually want to continue with this intelligent, funny and supremely well acted series. Bah, humbug!!!
October 28th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
A Stargate movie on dvd is not something one buys out of the blue when one sees it lying in a store.
A Stargate movie on dvd is bought by people who are actually a fan of the series or at least more or less familiar with it.
All this crap about economic influences holding back the production of the new SG-movies is just a big load of blah if you ask me.
Fans will buy the movies wether there is a (supposed) financial crisis or not.
Judging by the comments I’ve read about the previous direct-to-dvd Stargate movies being a huge success, any new Stargate movie should reach a similarly succesful position, probably even more so as the worldwide Stargate fanbase just keeps on growing and growing.
So SyFy please cut the crap and give us today our daily Stargate!
November 17th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
this totally sucks! i was soo looking forward 2 these new movies…especially since universe sucks ass! who cares if the economies gone into the crapper…ur fans r still out there and if its really THAT big of a deal then just make the movie better 2 attract more people!!! i totally agree with Rainier (post above me)about his views and everything. also since universe sucks stargate fans need some REAL stargate 2 make their lives less miserable!
November 17th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
i think the real reason that the sg-1 movie is on hold is because they producers/writers r making RDA loose some of those pounds he packed on…i mean they cant have a wedding (carter/o’neill) with him looking like he does…thats my view on y they put the sg-1 movie on hold…as 4 atlantis in a timeline im guessing that they want the sg-1 movie 2 happen b4 the atlantis one…so they can say that gen. o’neill and col. carter are on their honeymoon
thats my views on y the movies r on hold. IM DYING HERE…I NEED THOSE MOVIES SO RDA HURRY UP AND LOOSE THAT WEIGHT SO CARTER DOESNT DUMP U AND GO BACK 2 THAT LOSER WHO SHE ALMOST MARRIED WHO I REFUSE 2 ACKNOWLEDGE EVER EXISTED!
November 28th, 2009 at 8:45 am
f##k stargate !!! ive bought everything to do with the sg1 and atlantis programs . im sick of waiting on the movies and mean while were stuck with universe . its sh#t like realy crap i know that cause ive fell asleep watchin 1 of them and id never have fell asleep watchn sg1 or atlantis tv and movies . do us all a favor and cancell universe its crap . but in protest im not buyn the dvds of the new movies im just gona upload them and watch them online for free . were all sick of waitn upload it for free people cost these f##kers cash and mabye they will think twise about f##kn us about next time .
December 6th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Hey guys,
i’m really sad what they did with the sg-franchise.
i can assure everyone that millions of sg fans worldwide are furious over this crappy turn syfy has called for.
please come over to http://www.sgusucks.com and express your doubts and your anger. sign our petition, it’s worth it.
thx for reading!!
December 31st, 2009 at 7:26 pm
better still ….. start the 11th season
January 8th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Atlantis is 100 times better than the original, i could never get past the horrible acting and the retarded looking black dude with that thing on his forehead.Bring back Atlantis!
January 21st, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Come on, get to work! WE WANT SGA FILM!!!!
January 21st, 2010 at 10:10 pm
SOOOOOOOOOOOO disappointed that Atlantis was taken off air. That was the best show. Avidly awaiting movies. Don’t you realise that the whole world loves Stargate Atlantis??????
Stargate Universe is boring and dull, and the cast definitely do not make any impression!
January 24th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
“It is nice to know that someone will always be there to fill the gap when American TV lets us down, as they always do”
Are you insane?
I’m British, and ill be the first to admit that US Sci-Fi is light years ahead of the shit we make over here.
Dr Who is clearly written by the mentally retarded and the less said about torchwood the better.
PS: best Sci-Fi ever made was firefly. People who cancelled that show need to be given the death penalty.
February 8th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Totally agreed with James about Firefly. Some people in big business with the power to kill or keep shows that bring in “big bucks” have no appreciation for potiential/unique shows and the fans who believes in them. All hands up for Joss Whedon who’s a fabulous and a genius of Sci-Fi creator for Buffy, Serenity and firefly. Somewhere along the way these corporate people lose sight of the plot and became no better than money grabbing greedy bastards with eyes aiming at the top ratings, behaving just like the trading investors in US and damn the little people… they need to sort out their prinicples.
February 15th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
That line about not making the movie now due to the economy is crap. Yeah I might understand that if we were talking about buying houses or cars but a $20 DVD, a 10 year old could afford that. They need to give the fans what they want soon want or people will lose interest and it will be too late.
March 7th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
I love sg-1 and sga and I have to agree I believe why is at a terrible start but I’ve been waiting for these movies and if they don’t come out soon the fan base for these shows will completely disappear. How can you even think about not making these dvds and continue sgu? It doesn’t need work it needs to be put on hold make the movies. Sgu sucks and the talk about lack of financial to make this films is bs. Every person I know would buy these films but I can’t even get anyone to watch sgu make the f%$#ing movies!
March 18th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
I just f** hate sci-fi,and all those that are responicibile for cancelled the SG-1 and SGA.I Wish they life depends on me one day….i would revange….
March 20th, 2010 at 10:10 am
They need to bring back SGA the actors and storyline were so great I can’t believe they took it off the air and now are holding back from filming the movies.
April 10th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Seriously they say that there are financially problems and then they are produsing SGU seriously!!! The SGU are crap. insted of the SGU they sould have put the money in to SGA season 6 !!!
April 14th, 2010 at 4:37 am
I agree with you James, they need to get back to what we know and love so much witch is
- Make SG1 Movies
- Season 6 SGA
- SGA Movie
maybe we should make a petition ?
BTW James, Stargate is made in not a US production, it’s made in Canada, Vancouver
April 14th, 2010 at 4:43 am
and petition there is …
Go sign it up !
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/SaveSGA/
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/save-stargate-atlantis.html
April 17th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Um…I don’t know, you know? I mean I have a very nice complete box set with seasons 1-10 and Ark of Truth and Continuum in it. It looks very nice on my shelf, being all complete as it is…and the latter two titles rounded off the two major SG-1 arcs…i.e. The Goa’uld and The Ori. Everything has a beginning and an end, folks. And as much as I love the guy…RDA looked both fat and completely uninterested in his appearances in SG-U. Seems he’s enjoying his well deserved retirement. I’d rather keep my memories of him as he was….and my complete DVD box set allows me to do that whenever I like.
Besides (and believe me when I say I HATED episodes 1-10), episodes 11-13 of SG-U have been very good indeed. It’s like…Stargate is dead….LONG LIVE STARGATE! You know?
Nah, this is one petition I won’t sign. Actually, no, I will sign it…for Atlantis. That is something I would like to see a movie of.
April 27th, 2010 at 12:37 am
Sign’d both petitions to save Stargate Atlantis – and republished the petitionspot link on my Facebook.
I liked SG1; I loved Atlantis – I think it was the 1st spin off series I’ve ever liked better than the original.
As for SGU… I’ve tried… my wife has tried… my kids have tried… we can’t do it… if Universe is all MGM is going to do… then we are done with the Stargate franchise.
May 9th, 2010 at 7:40 am
MGM chairperson Mary Parent is driving the company down the toilet. Since she took over the company as ceo she has canned any progress with the SG franchise. She is using the model of ‘lure and hook’.
Basically the ‘lure and hook’ model means that movies/series end on a cliff note also know as, dangling some cheese to fans and make them fell hungry. In SGA this is seen as, yes their will be movie, so lets can the sucess of a series at the peak of its appearence.
Then comses the hook: in this case their has been NO information on the status of the move or series yet money is spent on SGU to widen target audience!!! Good one Mary, great buisness model.
Untill MGM pull their finger out and tell their fans where SGA move and series is at i will no longer see any MGM movies.
I encourage SGA fans to do the same.
BOYCOT all MGM movies!
May 11th, 2010 at 2:14 am
Having been a long time fan of many franchises including the Stargate franchise, try being a Star Trek fan – they went over 10 years between the end of the TV series and the first movie and another 5 years before TNG was created.
I have yet to see many of the SGU episodes so am not going to comment on the quality of the show, however making movies, even if they are direct to DVD costs lots of money, especially with the special effects that SG uses. Since MGM and a number of other studios are running in the red by a large margin, we need to accept that they just have things on hold, rather than shelving them altogether.
Just this Aussie’s 2 cents worth.
May 17th, 2010 at 6:42 am
WE NEED MORE ATLANTIS! I have been waiting for the Atlantis movie for a long time, and I’m getting tired of the feeble excuses from MGM, and I’m also getting tired of SGU, it’s not as good as SGA, and usually you aim for improvement over time, but it’s just gotten worse as time goes by. I think that they should cancel SGU and put the money not into a SGA movie, but bring back the show instead. They had an amazing cast, and wonderful story lines, the show actually managed to be better than firefly in some ways (mostly becuase it actually ran for more than half a year), and it managed to have a bit of romance, but not over the top. Whenever I see anything like romance in SGU, it’s eather not very realistic, or it’s really stupid and makes me turn it off. SGA was special in that the writers knew when and how to approach any inevitable attraction between people, and not make it look like some hollywood thing, but make it sweet and real. I’m sad that MGM thinks that it’s acceptable to do this to us, and I’m seriously considering going around my school and city, getting people to sign a petition, and sending it to MGM, and hoping that they’ll take it to heart, and smarten up.
May 18th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Big big fan of Stargate Atlantis, sorry to see it go. Out of all the 100’s of scifi shows I’ve watch, it was by far the best. I will especially miss seeing Jewel Staite, she can come down to Australia and make a movie anytime, soooo cute.
May 21st, 2010 at 2:02 pm
I doubt that MGM is going to bring back SGA even if we get every fan to sign the petitions that are going around the people responsible for ending it should be lined up and shot or sent to G-bay, As for SG-1 i liked it alot but I think they have gone as far as you can go with the TV show maybe there is one more movie they can churn out but it was never they same once RDA left the team.
I have been watching SGU just because there is no other Stargate shows to watch but in no way does it compare to SG-1 or SGA they almost never go to other planets and they can’t even control the ship yet it has aired 17 episodes and you can sum up all thats happend in 2 words “Fu**ing nothing” how could they replace SGA with this crap they could have done 3 or 4 more seasons of SGA, the wraith were the best enemy with heaps more story lines and they could have done much more with the seaching the city, Lets hope they bring it back for at least one more season or get off there ass and make the movie.
Just this Aussie fans Opinion.
June 15th, 2010 at 8:24 am
principle photography for the next two stargate movies, being filmed back to back began here in Vancouver several weeks ago. Sorry I don’t know which of the two is being shot first. My friends who work on the set are not familiar with the shows and are unfortunately not big scifi geeks so haven’t been able to pass along any valuable spoilers thus far. Even so they are under NDA.
But it’s still good news that filming has started. I was a bit surprised cause I had read just the week before that production was delayed due to the economy.
SGU is finally beginning to get interesting. hopefully they can maintain this new momentum into the next season.
June 17th, 2010 at 5:43 am
I too miss Atlantis. I can’t believe they scrapped it for SGU, god that show is boring. I’ve given it a go and I’m sorry but it is just utter CRAP. There really needs to be a movie to at least give Atlantis the finish it deserves, not a quickie ending with it floating around San Francisco Bay. Too many unfinished story lines. Honestly, I hope SGU gets the flick before they air season 2.
Another Aussie fan.
June 17th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Its such a shame about SGA. I totally agree with Eammon, there could have been a lot more story lines especially with the wraith. SG1 i will admit was quite good. But in my honest opinion SGA was by far the best, but now we’re stuck with SGU and its quite boring, 20 episodes now and basically nothing. But seriously, as Eammon said, people need to get off their ass and either make more SGA seasons, heck 2 or 3 maybe even 4, or at least a damn movie done for crying out loud.
June 29th, 2010 at 12:54 am
I loved both SG-1 and Atlantis. Was very disappointed when they ended. Sorry also that money was wasted making SGU. It seems they rushed to finish SGA to begin SGU which was a mistake. I found SGU a mixture of Drama+Battle Star type filming. Very disappointing. Toomany nose-up-close shots! There’s no cohesion between characters or teamwork like the others. Too much in-fighting and deceit going on.
June 30th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
The reason all this hold on SG-1 and Atlantis movies is simple and idiotic, The powers at the NBC/SY-FY studios,find that there is more money in boring us with reality shows cuz they are cheap to produce,have you noticed the amount they are throwing at us,here are just a few, Ghost Hunter,(crap)Ghost Hunter International(more crap)Smarter then a 5th grader ,American Idol, Dancing with 2 left feet,I can go on but you get my drift,these shows are cheap to make,So we the true fans of creative writing and entertainment are stuck with crap,when these shows come on I switch and go to the cooking channel, at least I learn some recipes, or go to history channel and when they show me reality shows I go to science Channel or NG, or news.They would make more money if they showed good movies or series of something ,it’s like the writers at NBC/SY-FY have lost the ability to be creative or they hire boring individuals to write, some one is laffing all the way to the bank and it’s the jerk who pitched this realty crap on the studios, if they only knew the buying and viewing public,We’d have the movies made and a great show to bootAnd your killing us with Stargate Universe,…
July 16th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Hey guys,
I just wish the bs rhetoric by wright, mallozzi and co would cut it with the nonsense about economic downturn.
DVD sales have never been stronger, and neither has hollywood in the last 5 years. This year alone has seen avatar hit the 700,000 million dollar mark.
The real truth or combination there of is this.
MGM are $3.7billion in debt, everything is on hold apart from tv shows, which is paid for by individual networks such as sci fi. Therefore SCI FI is responsible for footing the cost of these two movie productions. The other point is, they cancelled Atlantis and the new dire offspring that was created called 90210 in space, sorry SGU drama and more drama and nothing drama in space. Has taken their minds over. Until this dreadful show is cancelled or removed from the tv screens, they simply wont make anything with SG-1 or Atlantis. The fact that their new inbred SGU show is so bad, should prove it’s whole point.
The racket mr mallozzi and the other clown wright have been making regarding Atlantis, pretty much ensures the jig is up completely for Atlantis.
“We hated this series, we hated the characters, all wooden still faced super heroes who if they ever got anything wrong could cure it in an episode. It was a dreadful show and we are thankful we had it cancelled so we could work on our new project to take the franchise forward” = mallozzi.
Yes you have taken it so far forward it doesnt even belong to franchise. You slap a gate in it, have a few guest appearances from rda and a few of the others to try and validate it and then you think you can call it stargate. Your really sadly mistaken.
Nevertheless, Stargate Atlantis is pretty much now dead, it won’t be resurrected ever. It’s not a show they want to do it was wright and cooper who persuaded sci fi to cancel the show, not at sci fi behest unlike sg-1. I guess what comes around goes around. Since they wanted the 11th season, they did this to sci fi after the 5th season, pedantic? its the entertainment industry where crapping over one another is a common everyday occurance.
However there are few rumours that Cooper reckons we could see SG-1 Evolution be shot this fall (2010) with a release date early next year on syfy channel (USA Only) with dvd sales likely around March / April on Bluray (2011)
July 19th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
well as i said a month ago, both the movies ARE in production now, despite what some of you may have read to the contrary. I have a couple of friends who work on the production and have have been for almost 2 months now. I’m not sure what stage the production, I’ll have to ask them. I didn’t realize this matter was so clouded in mystery.
However if they have been filming for 2 months now then perhaps a release before the end of the year is still possible. Though I’d guess early 2011 would seem more realistic.
As for SGU, though it’s hard to deny the series has been very slow the last 2 episodes of the season were quite good and if they can maintain that pace from this point on I think the show may eventually take off.
I feel in an attempt to add an element of believable human drama to the situation and to attract a larger female audience they may have moved too far to the other extreme. Eventually I think they will find their sweet spot.
Why do sci-fi productions keep trying to do this in the first place is beyond me. It seems to be the new trend. You don’t see chick movies like Sex and the City trying to expand their male audience do you?
July 21st, 2010 at 3:40 pm
If they’d have been filming for the past 2 months, on any of the movies, this information would have leaked to the masses by now. Not so much the filming but MGM suddenly reversing their decision to take these movies off hold indefinitely stage.
I just can’t see what you say about these movies being in production believable, as I said there would have been a lot of recent hype. It’s been squarely dead for a while.
If it is true, then why as Mr Mallozzi even this past month denied such rumours as flights of fancy?
I am not saying they won’t be made, but from a franchise as big as this (almost) as big as Trek and this information would have been everywhere.
Can you point me to a credible source at the studios or someone at MGM who can confirm this? If not its mere speculation and dangerous to post stuff like this.
July 21st, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Sorry, I forgot to add this to my post above
Jeff you say this “But it’s still good news that filming has started. I was a bit surprised cause I had read just the week before that production was delayed due to the economy.”
Why would you be surprised? SG-1’s movie was put on hold early 2008, and Atlantis which was supposed to have been greenlit before SG-1 and given production status, was removed by MGM and their fanciful lies of a downturn in economy with dvd sales.
I really am sorry, but I really do find it had to believe that these movies are currently being shot, since there is no credible evidence of this and the fact TPTB keep dying anything is being made, and they are still in limbo.
July 28th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
I am so exited about Stargate extinction, huge Stargate fans here in South Africa. We cannot wait anymore!!
Hope that both SG1 and Atlantis don’t get put on “hold” for too LONG!!!
July 28th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
man it SUCKS that we have to wait so long for the two movies to come out especially Stargate Atlantis. 5 Seasons was too little for such an AWESOME show!! Lets just hope that the movie does the show justice!! Oh and I agree that Atlantis definately needs a way better ending!!
Please can they STOP wasting money making a CRAP show like Stargate Universe!! That show is like really, really, REALLY BORING!!!
For the love of God, please just CANCEL it!!
I’m sorry but that show has a lot to live up to and frankly I don’t see and feel that they are just hurting themselves and us as as loyal SG1 and SGA fans!!
Anyways, I wish Stargate Atlantis could go on forever:-)
Hope we see some Movies coming out soon!!
August 3rd, 2010 at 1:16 pm
The stargate universe is a copy of bsg battlestar galactica.
i dont say its bad, but too much drama makes us sg fans missing the funny parts…
August 7th, 2010 at 4:06 am
I will always support SG1 and Stargate Atlantis. No trash talk here about either show…because they gave me what no series ever could…. a great escape from the daily pressures of life. Movies serve the same purpose and for any SG1 or SGA movie that follows that simple rule…make me forget about the bills, the job, the terrible state of the economy and just give me a glimpse of what could be, what can be, and what will be. Forever SG1 and SGA fan. Looking back RDA was better to watch than Ben Browder it just farscapes me how the producers saw any talent in the guy. Sorry Ben but your ad lib lines in Farscape has no place in the gate universe. Speaking of SGU… notice how they think we’ll watch the show if they slap of a few double D girls on the show and expect us to be captivated by jiggly jiggly? Another insult to the intelligence of science fiction fans. SGU is pointless. Thank god for DVD’s lots of replay value there Stargate fans. Me and my wife are wearing them out every day.
August 12th, 2010 at 6:09 am
I am also a HUGE Stargate fan and a even bigger of Stargate Atlantis and I am really sad that there is not at least a 6th Season!!!
I cannot wait 4 the Stargate Atlantis Movie and I think it will be AWESOME!! I totally agree that SGU is POINTLESS and that it should be CANCELLED!!!
I especially love the music in Stargate Atlantis and so I was just wondering if anybody out there knows what name of the classical music that Mr Woolsey plays at the end of the 3rd episode called BROKEN TIES in Saeson 5 is?
Looked 4 the name but cannot seem 2 find it anywhere.
HELP:-)
August 14th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
It was Joel Goldsmith
you might enjoy this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ostmot-zVDs
I have to say the only scifi shows that had any wit, intelligence and humor were SG1 and SGA with BSG following a close 3rd.
SGU has no clearly defined bad guys..when you do that kind of theme of “everyone” or “anyone” could be a bad guy…boring. I really miss the predictability of the unpredictable theme in SG1 and SGA.
I was watching the scifi channel today and saw a show that obviously borrowed from SG1, SGA. It was so bad, I couldn’t watch it after 10 minutes. It had a double arch sort of stargate to travel through time then a team dressed in some kind of outdated army uniforms came out on the other end in a forest…familiar yes but gosh the fantastic 4 were the only ones I wanted to see pop out on the other side, not some B rated actors with subpar acting skills. By the Fab 4 I mean Teal, Oneal, Jack, and Carter.
Well at least I have 10 seasons to watch on DVD. That should keep me happy for awhile.
August 14th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
They killed off Atlantis too soon with the promise of a movie .. so do the darn movie ! After well over 10 years as a supported of Stargate it’s about time they listened to us and kept it going.
Even my kids keep asking, when is the Atlantis movie coming ?
Get on with it, the demand is obviously there and “you promised”!
Re SGU, it certainly aint an SG1 or Atlantis …. so if the producers think it’s going to last if Atlantis only made 5 seasons, they’ve got another thing coming.
Movie, movie, movie NOW !
August 15th, 2010 at 4:50 am
@Paul
When you were speaking of the fab 4, I think you meant to say…
Teal’c, O’Neill, Jackson and Carter.
August 15th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Hey Just want to send a short thank you to Paul 4 the Broken ties video, really thoughtful of you:-)
Anyways we all know who you were refering to when you talked about the Fab 4 and they will always, always stay that way.
Thanx agin:-)
August 18th, 2010 at 5:30 am
yeah cant wait 4 new movies.rda needs 2 loose wait and hope they show the warp drive of atlantis that they developed in the last ep of atlantis.
August 27th, 2010 at 6:38 am
So is there going to be a game on stargate there shod be
August 27th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
This is a huge disappointment!! Especially with how horrible of a show Universe is. I guess I will have to wait to get my Stargate Fix. to bad.
September 1st, 2010 at 3:05 am
Having been a huge fan since day 1, I have to say that I loved all the characters and all the episodes of both SG1 and SGA. I own both series on DVD and have watched them from start to finish at least 5 times BUT I would not spend a cent on the SGU Dvd’s, watching them once is more than enough – Having said that, it’s now time to cut the crap (SGU) AND GET ON WITH MAKING THE MOVIES!
September 1st, 2010 at 6:32 pm
I knew this was gonna happen as soon as stargate universe came out and they basically gave up on the game. The new shit series cost to much, so now they can’t afford to make the real money makers (Sga Sg-1 films)
There Guarenteed hits, so long as they dont film em like this battlestar galactica crap.
I love Stargate, but stick to what your good at.
September 2nd, 2010 at 1:25 am
I am a BIG fan of both SG1 and SGA!!!
Stargate Universe quite frankly SUCKS ASS!!! I mean really has Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper completly LOST the plot:-(
No one really cares for SGU and would rather stick pins in their eyes than to sit through 45 min and watch that BULL CRAP!!!
Two WordS: CANCEL SGU!!!
Can’t wait 4 SGA movie.
September 3rd, 2010 at 7:21 am
Amen to that Eliza. We can all agree that SGU leaves much to be desired. I don’t believe Cooper and Wright are listening to the audience anymore. They both have made a brave but perilious attempt trying to spin the spin. The chemistry between the cast members on SG1 and SGA are unmistakably driven with passion for the creating the gateworld. SGU is unmistakably driven by boring cast members going through the motions of lines without any passion. Most of the people posting here could do a better job then any of those SGU actors without any formal training.
It doesn’t take a genius to understand you have to spend money to make money. If MGM spends the money on just one SG1 or SGA movie, it would be the blockbuster SciFi of the year. But I’m not sure MGM has anyone capable of doing the math correctly, add in merchandising, DVD sales etc.
Die already and move on. Go out with a blast with some Movies not some watered down, budgeted down series that well frankly has some pretty low viewership. And to think they cancelled the SG1 and SGA shows for a lot less viewers. As Andy said above, stick to what your good at. In MBA school they taught us to stick to your core compentencies (e.g. SG1 and SGA). Cooper and Wright have definitely stepped outside their core competencies with SGU.
September 3rd, 2010 at 10:24 am
latest scifi talk interview, has Shanks publicly stating that the new SG-1 movie has been greenlit and is in production.
It will be Oneill concentric
Vala will not be appearing
“it will be old school sg-1 type movie”
Shooting will begin this fall – shanks. (AUG 2010)
The rest of the cast members are being recalled.
Also to add a bit more speculation to this, IMDB pro, confirms Shanks is currently making a movie. Quite what that movie is,
is anyone’s guess.
RDA just finished shooting a movie recently.
The only doubt would be Chris Judge who is hell bent on getting
his own show on air, I think with Showtime or HBO.
This is quite a departure from earlier in the year when everyone was quoting shanks as saying “its been too long, and I can’t see them being able to get the cast members lined up for another shoot, because they are all on different projects.” Thats if even said that at all. You all know the hype and BS syfy spout.
So if this is true then shooting will officially begin in the fall. I just find it rather suspect. You can listen to shanks’ interview on scifi talks.
Mallozi quizzed later, says the following (not on the audio interview, it was on his blog)
When SG-1 and Atlantis is greenlit, the shooting order would be
SG-1 gets preference, and will shoot first, and that will happen in either the summer, or during the break for season 3.(season 3? it will be lucky to survive season 2 lol). It’s possible we’ll shoot after SGU goes to air in the fall.
If Atlantis is greenlit before SG-1 then we’ll make an SGU movie, which would have priority over Atlantis. SGU -> Atlantis and then SG-1.
If both movies are greenlit at the same time, then it will be SG-1 -> then later Atlantis. If SGU is cancelled it won’t make any difference to the time frame of shooting these movies.
It’s quite disturbing they are even considering an SGU movie even ahead of Atlantis in the pecking order.
Anyhoo, fingers crossed SG-1 has been greenlit and that the shanks interview is factual (i have no reason to believe it isn’t.)
September 3rd, 2010 at 10:37 am
Also one bit of tidbit information.
Mallozzi is getting desperate, remember when he called all the Atlantis characters, squared jawed super heroes?
Well now that SGU has really flopped, he admitted there will be a sort of cross over (not really a cross over) in episode 15 season 2. It will feature 2 cast members from Stargate Atlantis. We are looking at it, and it shouldn’t make too much of a difference to the Atlantis movie, because we can re-edit the script at the beginning to allow for it.
Just goes to show, how low this clown is prepared to go, I mean cmon SGU sucks, we don’t want Atlantis cast members to try and prop up a show that was ultimately responsible for Atlantis’ cancellation. Talk about adding insult to injury.
SG-1 cast couldn’t lift SGU, it was insult to those SG-1 actors to even be associated with it, I would have thought. But now to get 2 Atlantis cast members in for some cameo appearances..it just shear desperation.
I know I won’t be watching it, and the movie had better not make allusions to that cross over(not a cross over pe se according to mallozzi)in an SGU episode.
Sorry Mallozzi, Wright and co need to move on.
jeff : As for SGU, though it’s hard to deny the series has been very slow the last 2 episodes of the season were quite good and if they can maintain that pace from this point on I think the show may eventually take off.
I am sorry, but the actors are clueless twerps, who wouldn’t know how to act if they went through acting school. Seriously they are just terrible actors, they have zero chemistry, did i mention they have no acting ability? The show is dull, its crap and full on drama, drama, drama. The last 2 episodes where still dire crap trap from them. Maintain what pace? no matter what they do with this show, the jig is over, regardless of the second season. As for it taking off, I hope it does too straight of our tv screens.
You put garbage in, you get garbage out. Mark my words, the writing is on the wall for this show. Game over even before the mid season hiatus.
September 3rd, 2010 at 11:15 am
Thanks Jason I’m psyched.. I can’t wait. It’s a long time overdue. I could care less about MGM’s financial woes (that only means they didn’t manage their money correctly in the first place). Right now is the best time to make a SG1/SGA movie that has such a large following. Especially right now when the economy is bad, people need their escape from reality. SG1 and SGA provided that escape…I really do miss it. The Stargate simply is and will always be the best prop in hollywood..bar none.
SGU is perverting that prop.
September 3rd, 2010 at 11:29 am
Thing is, ironically, its not MGM footing the bill for either movie, its the syfy channel.
They maintain rights to both shows, even through cancellation. They secured both new movies to appear exclusively on their channel when made. They even put the production order in.
In my opinion, I don’t buy it’s MGM stalling, I reckon it’s down to the SyFy channel and the Bridge Studio’s. I think it’s fair to say they are hell bent on trying to turn a flop into a hit that they can’t see the tree’s for the forest.
SyFy was responsible for the production costs entirely for SG-1 and later Atlantis. When a network orders a show, they are responsible for its costs. Since this is a straight to DVD sales as opposed to a regular movie, and since SyFy still holds the rights, it’s down to them to order MGM to make these movies.
Whether MGM has any money or not, would not make any difference to the these movies productions because they are paid for directly by SyFy, NBC and Universal.
NBC announced last year they had cut over over 500,000$ from their budget for last fall. They barely have anything left, from the cancellations they made to some of their shows. I guess thats the real real reason why SyFy where told to change names, so they where not forced into a corner, with no money.
So at the end of the day, its SyFy, NBC and Universal who would ultimately foot the bill for these movies, so I have zero idea why they where talking about MGM having no money, its completely and utterly irrelevant, since they aren’t putting the money in, in the first place.
They are responsible for merchandising and dealing directly with DVD sales. Apparently MGM is now up for auction.
September 6th, 2010 at 5:28 am
I don’t really know what to say anymore exept that I agree with every single person who has voiced their opinion, whether on SG1 or Altlantis or even about that SHOW FLOPPER called STARGATE UNIVERSE!!!
Point is that by the time somebody gets a wake up call over there at SYFY Channel or MGM, we as loyal Stargate fans will have completely lost interest because we will expect nothing but HUGE DISAPOINTMENT with what they are currently trying to dish up for us by putting us through HELL!!!!
I really love Stagate SG1 and Atlantis and I don’t see why we have to make way for a CRAP show like SGU that CLEARLY is not WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 6th, 2010 at 5:45 am
For all you people who think that SGU sucks…
You might enjoy paying a visit to the following site…
http://www.sgusucks.com
Where you will find all kinds of conversations regarding SGU and ofcourse how much it sucks.
Besides SGU other Stargate material and other scifi shows can ofcourse also be topics of interest.
Check it out
September 6th, 2010 at 6:16 am
COME ON PEOPLE!!! what is wrong with you all!!!
These people have given you nearly 15 years of fantastic SG entertainment and as soon as they try somethin different you all turn your backs on them and abuse them.
Personally i think SGU has taken the Sg franchise to new heights, bringin in the realism, drama and internal conflict that the other SG’s all lacked.
Nearly the entire fanbase has this immature attitude and believes that the producers/writers etc. owe you another 5 seasons of atlantis or more movies or blah blah blah! When in reality it is all of you who owe them your loyalty and respect for providing you with so many years of great entertainment!
You should all be ashamed of yourselves you ungrateful assholes!
I can tell you even if I didnt like the SGU i would still tune in every week and support the SG franchise because they need it now more than ever in these economically troubling times.
If you can’t even give SGU the chance and loyalty it deserves and at least watch till the end of its 2 season trial then the SG fanbase is better off without you!
September 6th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Y’know, im starting to wonder what on earth was going through their minds for them to come up with SGU. Its an utter failure, end of story. And as the person above me says, by the time something does happen we will have lost interest because we will just expect a disappointment. So, screw SGU, and give THE VIEWERS WHAT THEY WANT! That being more SG1 and SGA (Even movies are good enough!)
September 7th, 2010 at 3:35 am
Blah blah blah Dean.
There’s a reason I’ve been a loyal fan for all those years, and it’s not a hunger for realism, drama or eternal conflict, that’s for sure.
Who ever said the former Stargate shows where lacking anything? They were great as they were.
You talk about immature attitude, yet you are the one who assumes there is something wrong with people that voice their opinion about not liking SGU. What happened to freedom of speach and the right to have an opinion? Furthermore you call people assholes. Obviously you are really mature.
September 7th, 2010 at 4:53 am
@ Rainer
“There’s a reason I’ve been a loyal fan for all those years, and it’s not a hunger for realism, drama or eternal conflict”
Actually “internal” conflict but that’s niether here nor there… And I’m fully aware of that, that’s not the reason i tuned in either, however SGU is a different entity and deserves to be treated as such, not just compared with the SG1 and SGA.
“Who ever said the former Stargate shows where lacking anything? They were great as they were.”
I’m not denying they where great shows, i thoroughly enjoyed them but I think you’ll find i said “Personally…” indicating that it is my personal opinion. Also you can’t really argue that SG1 and SGA where perfect shows that lacked absolutely nothing, that’s just unreasonable.
“You talk about immature attitude, yet you are the one who assumes there is something wrong with people that voice their opinion about not liking SGU”
Actually I never said there was anything wrong with people who don’t like SGU, I simply think so called “fans” should be willing to give the show the chance it deserves before coming on forums and message boards and slating the creators. If you’ve spent much time on SG boards you would be well aware of the immature attitude that the majority of the fan base have. There is a difference between voicing your opinion and abusing/insulting the people who have given you 15years of fantastic entertainment.
“What happened to freedom of speach and the right to have an opinion? Furthermore you call people assholes. Obviously you are really mature.”
I never once said people weren’t entitled to their opinion I simply ask for patience and a mature attitude towards the show. SyFy gave it 2 season trial, why can’t the fans do the same?
Also if calling ungrateful people who take, take, take and never give anything constructive back to the community a bunch of assholes makes me immature in your eyes, then so be it.. i stand by my request to simply give the show a chance, it really isn’t much to ask!
September 7th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Blah blah blah Dean!!!! I totally agree with Rainier. Me thinks thou protests too much!!!
Seriously who has the time to read all of the pointless crap and you acuse us of spending too much time on this site!!!
You write long and boring essays and why do you repeat some of what Rainier wrote, there is no need to get so defensive about everything !!!
September 7th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Dean I agree that you shouldn’t get so defensive. I mean really, how many of us have given SGU a chance and it all boils down to one thing that we are not happy with the SGU!!!!
September 7th, 2010 at 9:03 am
@Dean
We’ve both had our say now.
Let’s not pursue this argument here any further.
I don’t want to stray too far from the original content of this “news-item”.
Besides there are other sites more suitable for debate.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Dean,
You clearly either work for the slyfy i mean syfy channel or you work at bridge studios, your opinions are irrelevant.
“I never once said people weren’t entitled to their opinion I simply ask for patience and a mature attitude towards the show. SyFy gave it 2 season trial, why can’t the fans do the same?”
Not being funny pal, but who are you trying to kid coming here and trying to defend the worse piece of turd ever seen on tv? thats saying something.
FACT: they cancel atlantis for this steaming turd.
FACT: it wont last its second season, because its a steaming turd
FACT: syfy viewers intelligence is pretty limited I grant you that, but dont ever come on a board and try to insult the fans who have been there from the beginning and bought everything. Seriously your declaration above is nothing but a giant kick @ Rainer. You are just digging yourself a grave you wont ever climb out of.
FACT: the board owner needs to be tracing your ip, and finding out who you work for, since you have given your agenda above. Regardless, how dare you insult people with your derisory attitude.
The show is crap, get it canceled now, and bring back what people actually want! I should imagine with the limited intelligence thats going around NBC Universal at the moment even they can understand my statement.
September 7th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
If you can’t even give SGU the chance and loyalty it deserves and at least watch till the end of its 2 season trial then the SG fanbase is better off without you!
chance and loyalty it deserves? what chance does it deserve exactly? Its been crap and even more crap from day 1.
Loyalty? are you kidding me? Its a floater stuck in the toilet. How many more things can we say to tell you, we hate this stinking crap?
Dean you talk with authority, but you come over a complete mentally challenged tool.
September 9th, 2010 at 4:27 am
I think Dean is right to defend SGU with passion, because if SGU fails, which is looking likely, that’s then end of the SG franchise for ever. We may be lucky to get an Atlantis movie and maybe another SG1 movie but the franchise will die and i don’t want that.
September 11th, 2010 at 3:07 am
Frank you must be the most naive person online at the moment!
Where do you get this garbage from you speak of? I mean seriously who said if SGU fails that will be it? Ah thats right more assumptions based on nothing. Just because a certain show fails does not for one moment mean that the franchise is dead forever lmao. Seriously, a little thought should be put, before typing. MGM isn’t going to let the franchise bubble burst. It nets them a lot of money from the international market. If SyFy cancel, MGM sell the license rights onto more interested parties of which their are numerous contenders, such as SPIKE for a start.
I remember seeing someone post something similar about Atlantis..and all the doom and gloom that, thats it. Christ sakes, this franchise is pretty big, it will survive MGM and it will survive some dire show that should have been canned after its first episode.
Mallozzi, Wright and Cooper excel at formulaic episodic shows, such SG-1 and Atlantis. SGU is so far removed from their abilities as writers, it defies belief. You would have thought after 15 years they should know what their strengths are and what not to do. If we can see and they can’t its time to sell the Gate now to interested parties.
I have said this for the longest time. Showtime selling SG-1 to syfy was the worst ever mistake of the franchise. SyFy are just the most spectacularly crap network ever created. So it should come as no surprise that SyFy helped facilitate and ruin the franchise
September 15th, 2010 at 7:17 am
I also do not think the Stargate Franchise will just die out because of one show. We as Stargate fans just want what we know and love and SGU is not it!!! Remove SGU!!
September 29th, 2010 at 10:42 am
I’m a first timer here – just came across this site and felt I had to put in my 2cents.
SGU is god awful. It kind of reminds me of Battlestar Galactica. Slow, dull, far too much introspection and far too much in-fighting.
Take it off air. I would not want my kids to watch it in it’s present format.
September 29th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
I thought id better say that MGM would not sell the rights to anyone at the moment, because of the current auction of it’s lot. It could end up being that the franchise ends up with another studio. And I am edging my bets on why these movies haven’t been greelit yet.
I have this feeling either MGM is talking to interested parties and due to an exclusivity agreement between said parties prevents them disclosing why the movies aren’t being made (no doubt the new owning studio would want to stamp its own authority on to the movies.) I really don’t know, but this to be at least would explain a great number of things, and more importantly on why there are no new movies.
No studio in their right minds would babble such nonsense as a bad economy..which explains huge and I mean huge record profits for mediocre crap like Avatar. 0.o
Even Star Wars is going to be reformatted for 3D..yawn. So if that franchise which imo is a quarter the size of the gate franchise can be given the go ahead by fox, then MGM are guarateed a big profit from the gate franchise.
Universe costs MGM nothing to produce, like any tv show made, because all the bills are entirely footed by the company paying for the licensing of the show such SyFi and in the UK SkyOne etc. All of this is pure profit to MGM
October 6th, 2010 at 6:43 am
All that talk about new movies being filmed. All hogwash. I am in Vancouver and know what the film industry is doing. There is nothing of the sort going on. If it was, it would be in the trade papers too. It isn’t.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
SG1 and SGA made SyFy.
SGU will finish it.
SGU sucks, I just can’t watch it. More boring the BSG.
Don’t hardly watch SyFy Channel any more.
Too bad MGM and SyFy don’t get it.
October 10th, 2010 at 4:48 am
will there be an atlantis movie, i miss atlantis.
October 15th, 2010 at 11:01 am
That’s the MILLION DOLLAR Question we are all asking Ian:-)
WILL THERE BE AN ATLANTIS MOVIE?????????? and yes we all miss Atlantis and I seriously don’t know anymore. No one at MGM or SyFy is hearing our plea to CANCEL that bloody SGU!!! and I am sure that there is a lot of people who are fed up with them and feel the same too!!!!
October 15th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
SyFy have to show the first 10 episodes of season 2 and probably the whole season because they committed to it. They are doing a spot of flapping at the moment over some imaginary increase in viewer numbers…i kind find that hard to believe.
Wright recently yes Atlantis is going ahead and so is SG-1. The direct to dvd market isnt as strong as it was.
Laugh a second that statement from the clowns. Seriously dvd sales have never been stronger + to the fact its sg-1 / atlantis its a guaranteed sell, so his bull about it not being strong is a joke.
October 18th, 2010 at 8:00 am
Hi all,
I’ve sat and spent ages reading everyone’s opinions and felt the urge to share my own.
I love both SG1 and SGA, but unfortunately I find it difficult to love SGU.
I still continue however to watch SGU as it is aired on tv over here in England.
I can’t say I enjoy it which I wish I could but I feel it is much too dull for the emphatic fanatacism that I manage to give SG1 and SGA. Yet I will still follow the current SG series as SG has been part of my life since I was 11 and I am now 25 lol.
Roll on the new movies, I totally can’t wait!!! Wish they were out already.
I also agree with the majority of comments that say SGU should be cancelled to make way for the new movies. Especially Atlantis!!
Katie
October 20th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
OMG I just relized that I forgot to watch the last 2 episodes of SGU – well I guess that says it all for that show. Gone are the days where I lived from week to week for Stargate. Couldn’t wait until each season was released on DVD, both SG-1 and SGA and the movies, well I had them on order long before they were released too. I’ve been a huge fan since day 1 and I’m now 49! You have to wonder though, “Why did Robert Cooper really leave?” – could it be that he could see what was really happening and couldn’t stand to see such a great franchise being destroyed – It’s so sad to see such a great franchise go down the drain. To TPTB please, please, listen to the fans before it’s too late. Forget about the worse mistake ever made (SGU) and get on with making the movies that the fans are really hanging out for.
October 24th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
i dont understand they cancell shows now looking forward to having movies and now being told those are on hold too…..why punish the devoted fans who have stuck with the show through the whole life of it, now looking forward to seeing familer faces in a good movie. i have seriously thought about just getting used to being lied to and stop watching the shows, sgu isnt even half as good as the past two. please please pay attention to the fans and viewers they are who pay for it all anyway.
October 25th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
I just wish that Cooper would have had the good grace to move on before SGU even came into being. Atlantis would still be with us today. What he did for the franchise throughout it long proud history he tore to bits with ease in SGU.
The great news is that SGU’s viewer numbers are now well below the 1 million mark.
It will be interesting to see what transpires during the mid season hiatus. It’s doing so badly that only a mad man (are you reading Mark Stern from SyFy?) would allow it to continue it’s full season run. It wouldn’t be for the first time a show had all of it’s season episodes made or near enough made, then canceled.
A brand new BSG has been greenlit by SyFy, this coming days after they admitted that SGU was doing atrociously..could this new BSG be it’s replacement in the fall of 2011/12?
In the mean time, it’s also sad to see so many of the franchise’s directors, producers and executive producers leave the franchise.
Martin Gero, Martin Wood, Carl Binder and a few more to name.
We wanted Cooper out, and he has gone..thanks for the early memories but I thankful you are leaving, you destroyed what credibility we had left in the show. You got bored so trashed everything that was working right for your own selfish needs.
The fans have spoken and I am thankful they have by not tuning in..now SyFy what about the mini arc Atlantis story you can greenlight for television, or a mini sg-1 series for television?
There is absolutely no reason why they can’t bring Atlantis back for a multi episode story arc..even if it means the absolute end for Atlantis or for that matter SG-1. I am guessing the viewers would be there in huge numbers..like they where when they premiered the movies before going straight to DVD.
Mark Stern get this mini arc project greenlit or speak to Wright and co about it..and while your at it, cancel SGU in mid season hiatus.
November 5th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
G.J October 20th, 2010 said “..Gone are the days where I lived from week to week for Stargate….”
How True!!
Now I don’t watch SciFi, sorry “Syfy”, on Fridays at all! In fact, all I watch on SyFy now are SGA/SG1 & Enterprise re-runs – when they are on(”Haven” wasn’t bad, but now it has gone too)-
and, I confess, I have been *trying* to get into SGU. But it is like swimming through glue!
I too have been a SF channel fan since day-1 and I have never watched it LESS than I do now. I agree with 99% of you: SGU IS dark, dull, slow, tedious, too introspective, the one or too interesting glimmers are way, way too far apart and it’s dull (did I say that already?), well it is.
SGI & SGA had wit, humour, interesting villains AND great characters!! Great characters can lift slightly below-par story-lines, if necessary, and keep the audience watching! There is not one character in SGU that I would miss the way I miss Jack, Daniel, T’eulk, John or Rodney (BTW. I am female!)and Sam & Liz too!
And speaking of Sam, I am afraid that Sanctuary (now rapidly becoming “AtlantiSanctuary”)is just ridiculous! I hate it!
It may be true that major SG fans (like myself) are not giving SGU a fair chance, but it is not at all surprising! If SGA had not been canceled and SGU had instead been introduced along side it, like SGA was with SG1, we *may* feel better disposed towards it. As it is, all we see is that our favourite show was given a premature & untimely death for this “Road to Nowhere – with a really unlikely and tenuous beginning!”.
I confess, I do hate SGU less than I hate Sanctuary, but I guess that’s cos it doesn’t try and convince me that there are major freaks & weirdos living amongst us, on a daily basis (most of whom look like characters from the Pegasus Galaxy!)
Anyway right now, like you guys, I am waiting (patiently) for SGA (& SG1)movies. But what is keeping me sane during the wait AND I have become seriously hooked on is, IMHO, the best show on TV right now. It’s not on SyFy, that’s for sure! (unfortunately it’s on Fox, but you can’t have everything): F.R.I.N.G.E!
Check it out!
November 5th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
OMG I forgot Tayla! Tayla-Amazing-Armagen. How could I have forgotten to mention her!!! Jeez, I am losing it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoDlUwlDQkA&feature=related
November 6th, 2010 at 2:37 am
JayD – Haven hasn’t gone, it’s season has just ended. (Some shows only get 13 episodes a season, Haven is one of those shows) It was renewed for a second season (13 episodes) by SyFy, because it did extremely well.
As for SGU – Cooper decided to walk at the end of season 1. Wright admitted that his own wife who allegedly watches that tripe, has said it wasn’t sci fi it was just another drama show.
Then we have Mallozzi’s own major whine at people like us. If you did not read the garbage he posted on his blog, you should head over there. In a nutshell, we should not be complaining about this garbage, shouldn’t be slagging it off on the many different forums.
From Mallozzi’s own blog.
“SGU is NOT SG-1 or Atlantis. It’s a different show in terms of tone and characters. If you’re expecting flawless people, square-jawed heroes, and stories that set up and deliver all the answers over the course of a forty-five minute episode, you WILL be disappointed. And DON’T expect that to change. If you don’t like the character interactions, romance, and open-ended story elements introduced to date, you’re in for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong haul because that’s our show.”
The great news is that there are now less than 1 million viewers, it hit a all new time low of just 974,000 viewers, but this isn’t something that has just happened.
SGU Season 2 numbers:
Justice: 1.340, Human: 1.313, Sabotage: 1.391, Incursion, Part 1: 1.178, Intervention: 1.175, Aftermath: 1.070, Awakening: 1.222, Pathogen: 974,429. Even it’s fans as now walking in big numbers too.. Mallozzi time for you to do the walk of shame with Cooper
November 6th, 2010 at 2:39 am
I just thought id also add he mentions “flawless people, squared jawed heroes”, yet he is relying on those “flawless square jawed heroes” to keep his sunken show alive..mallozzi – your so two faced you make a compulsive liar look honest..you have no place left on this franchise.
November 6th, 2010 at 8:18 am
He (mallozzi) has clearly never watched SG1 from the start, or SGA either. The unspoken connection between Jack & Sam demonstrated the human flaws in both characters – AND kept the audience engaged for 10 seasons!!Nor has he seen the early SG1 episodes in which Rodney featured. He was anything BUT flawless – an arrogant – and technically somewhat impotent – SOB. In Atlantis we saw different sides of him; he became human and we saw that the arrogance was pertly a shield against his lack of self-confidence and his lack of social skills. That is what has made him one of the best characters in SGA. And he’s definitely not “square-jawed”!!
November 6th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
ok people, I will tell you the problem with SGU and why they are behind it so much…..
Battle Star Galactica
They saw the success of Battle star Galactica and pretty much remade that show in the stargate universe. true, if you never watched any other stargate shows and just finished watching the entire BSG series, stargate universe would seem like a natural step. They are hoping to cash in on the BSG popularity, and, bring over existing Stargate fans. It didn’t work or it isn’t working and I’ll tell you why.
To make a successful stargate series you have to have these things…
1. planet exploration…the premise of the any stargate show should be the stargate, which allows exploring the unknown, adventure and meeting new creatures/people.
2. New exciting technology…the mission of most of the shows at its base was always to find advanced tech from the alien races they encounter while exploring.
3. A consistent team that includes…
A. a Han Solo type character. (military based character that uses common sense really well to solve or understand problems, and a good leader and/or strategist)
B. The smart guy (either a scientist or doctor that is able to make sense of all the new technology they run across)
C. An alien (someone that can be a guide when they visit unknown places)
D. A Soldier (someone who is a no frill, no game playing serious character that is the “strong man” of the team. that gets the job done at all cost when it comes to combat)
4. Camaraderie….characters that care about each other so when one gets into a bind, the tension and sense of urgency is there when the rest of the team has to figure out how to help.
5. A unique and interesting enemy to give the show a focus, keep the sense of danger going while they are exploring.
6. and the show needs to be 70% serious 30% fun with a hint of political drama and or in-fighting
SG1 and Stargate Atlantis had those things. Stargate universe doesn’t.
SGU has “the solder” (Grier) and I like that character…he is fine.
they have “the smart guy” but he is not likable and he keeps everything secret to the point where he is more annoying than anything. The other smart guy (eli) is fine but he is also a loner and doesn’t contribute to the show enough to make a difference.
there is no alien, no camaraderie, no “han solo” style character, too little exploration, and all of the technology is unknown. the show is about 95% serious 5% fun, with too much politics and in-fighting, too dark, and it seems like no one likes, trusts, or respects anyone…well a few do but there is no overall “team” feeling to the show. It feels like a group of angry or sad people in a closet during a blackout.
Me personally, I think SG1 has indeed ran its course, Stargate Atlantis ended too early. and if anything they should recreate either SG1 or Atlantis in a different location….maybe Stargate: Antarctica….or Stargate: Alpha site. pick another location or base and apply the same fundamental structure of SG1 and Atlantis and create a new show….cancel SGU.
November 6th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Not sure about you, but some of atlantis’ worst episodes (not that many) where all written by Mallozzi. They where full of weak characterizations.
Cooper wrote 5 or 6 episodes, Mallozzi wrote about 10 and the rest where written in house by others like Martin Wood etc. Not sure if Sanctuary is even filmed at the Bridge studios anyway.
His rant (Mallozzi) goes on and on. Yet one thing he cannot seem to grasp, is the fact it’s own small fanbase is giving it the middle finger treatment as well. If something isn’t working you don’t keep working on the show. You work on another concept and try to pitch it to syfy, not continue on alienating even more fans by the comments..i couldn’t believe what I read from him.
He mentions the loooooooong haul, but the show will get the chop this christmas. Hopefully we’ll see the back of him when it’s canceled. Otherwise he needs to develop a new show like Atlantis, or bring back Atlantis. The fan support is still there for it, on re runs Atlantis (on syfy) slaps sgu silly with it’s numbers. The demand is there, there is no shame in admitting defeat and bringing back what people actually want. It solves the problem with the Atlantis movie.
November 6th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
One thing Mallozzi and Cooper never grasped. You can’t get away with having a continuous storyline if the show is bad. Babylon 5 was unique, in that it had excellent writers, it has great acting and it had everything (apart from season 5 which I thought was rather weak). Star Trek lost it’s viewers when Berman tried to introduce 2 elements, the season long xindi crap..which went on and on. And then the temperal cold war. That 1 season alone killed the show off. It failed because people don’t want huge long pointless arcs. Television is the here and now..miss an episode on a long story arc your screwed completely if you didnt dvr it.
SGU hasn’t worked because it was seen as the show that killed Atlantis off, it failed because the actors are just dreadful and dreary, the storylines are dreary and tired. The entire concept is just stupid. Not sure what anyone else at Bridge Studios was thinking with it’s concept. It was never going to take off.
The other problem is, after nearly 15 years the writing team has virtually exhausted everything it can do. I mean there are a tiny handful of writers. The franchise needs fresh new blood to be writing..from a different and fun direction. Not the same dreary crap from writers who have passed their sell by dates by a long margin.
Star Trek suffered the same thing. The writers got stuck in the same thing over and over. They refused to bring in new writers until it was too late (Manny Coto). I also hate the overused but often not true “franchise fatique” theme. The secret is as mentioned to bring in every so often new writing blood, toss around ideas and go for it.
Star Trek would be here and now with a new series, if network television and studios employed common sense..something severely lacking in this day and age..yet these same writers go on strike because they want paying more for ever more crap writing.
Unless TPTB are prepared to bring in new writers, I think we’ll be stuck in a hole with the franchise, either until the movies get made or until MGM finds a new studio..they aren’t going to let a franchise this good, rot.
November 6th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Having realized that my knowledge of SGA/SG1 writers was sadly lacking, I decided to check out the writer of the one SGA episode that stands out in my mind as being really awful – (Whispers) and lo & behold, you are correct! In fact that seems to be the only one written by Malozzi on this own – well, that explains a lot! My other-half used to watch SGA until that episode (& he’s not a *major* SF fan) but he just walked out in disgust after “Whispers”.
Most of the Malozzi-Mullie ones are considerably better – just as well, since they seem to be writing/have written the first movie (unless you know otherwise).
Another SGA episode which I thought was out of sync and boring (its only saving grace being John Shepard!)was the Vegas one. What was your opinion on that?
I agree with your view on Babylon 5, it was an epic – quite literally – (if season 5 the one with Tracy Scoggins in command of the station, I agree with you about that), but apart from that it was brilliant! I will watch that over & over.
I wish they could have done more with the Crusade thing – finding a cure for the plague – as it had potential.
Personally, I like continuity threads/story-lines running throughout a series of episodes, but, as you say, they have to be carefully written & well acted.
In fact, IMO that was what made Babylon 5 so superior to DS9 (or as one friend of mine called it “To boldly STAY, where no-one has stayed before!”)
November 7th, 2010 at 4:36 am
I agree “Vegas” was a boring episode, actually I think it was probably the worst episode in the whole 5 years of Atlantis. I’ve watched the complete series 4 times now and always skip that episode. Well the countdown is on – any day now we are gonna hear those magic words that we have all been waiting for – SGU CANCELLED – and then hopefully TPTB will start listening to the fans and what we want.
November 7th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Can anyone tell me how they go about getting the numbers for these viewer ratings? I have always wondered about it. So many SF shows that I love (even before SGA and Enterprise)seem to have been axed due to “low ratings” or perceptions of such by the host network, yet everyone *I* ask/know loves the show, and looking at blogs it seems I and my friends are not the only ones. (Prey, Crusade, Threshold)
I do not live in the US, but in Caribbean which is in N.America zone – and we get US TV. But, anyway, in this Internet age fans live all over the world!
On the other hand, SyFy (especially since July 2009!) is showing such crap on a daily basis, that I’ve basically given up on it anyway…. but that’s another story.
What concerns me about the failure of SGU (and I think Jason said this somewhere above), is that it will kill the Stargate franchise altogether. (Like the death of Enterprise has killed Star Trek – TV series anyway).
Stargate is one of the VERY few concepts that survived the transfer from successful box-office Movie to TV-show – with different main actors!- and then lasted 15 year! A major feat in my books!
Most of the time – with SF anyway – it is the other way around.
We cannot let the arrogance of idiotic, deaf, dumb and blind writers and their petty bickerings kill off Stargate!
November 8th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Hey there JayD. I don’t think we’ll see the end of the Franchise, I don’t believe MGM would allow it. It’s about the only thing that guarantees incoming license rights.
But it could be quite a wait for another concept to hit the rails and end up on tv with a new Stargate Show.
DL pretty much nailed it on the head when he said SyFy wanted another Battle Sstar Galactica. But because of the shocking low numbers for that woeful remake, they didn’t have the nerve to try again with a different format for BSG, instead as DL mentions above, they wanted to try and ‘bring in’ the Stargate franchise.
Hey if BSG fans hate the new series, the gate fans will love the idea mentality.
They then proceeded with probably the worst spin off in television history with Caprica. It didn’t quite make 10 episodes when SyFy canned it. Which is even more damning that they refused to cancel SGU with even worse numbers.
Caprica all episodes kept it’s numbers just above the 1million mark just, yet SGU week on week as continued to perform very poorly. It amuses me greatly when people come on here and blast us for giving SGU a bad rep, and not giving it a chance. I mean seriously, there is nothing what so ever to like about the show, it’s just dreadful beyond comprehension. It’s hard to believe we have gone from SG-1 through Atlantis to a throat slitting mess as SGU, it’s what happens when your writers actually believe they have the superior mentiality and think they know what we want. 10 seasons alone with SG-1 should have given them all the information they would ever need.
The last X Files movie was a complete disaster, Duchovny admitted. The writers strayed away from the roots of the show..some people saw the movie and told their friends it really was not the X Files…yet this time out Carter has said the third movie will be in line with the series..we made a giant error with the last movie thankfully it wasn’t fatal. We can apply this same logic to SGU or even BSG compared to it’s original. You mess around with a franchise people love, or try to reboot it, your in for a very big rough ride with ultimate failure absolutely guaranteed.
As for Vegas, it was Cooper’s signing off episode for season 5. He ssomething about CSI and having a fun retake on it, using the wraith. The ratings for that episode where generally very positive, with a final 1.67million tuned in to watch it. The trend for Atlantis was growing week from week. Season 5 was as strong as season 2 was. With season 4 being perhaps the weakest followed by season 3. Personally that episode was not to my liking. Cooper can usually write some sterling stuff, but he is capable of writing absolute dross too which for me Vegas was.
November 8th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
For cable thats pretty easy and straight forward. They can measure how successful or woeful a show is, just by looking at the numbers watching ‘their’ channel on any given day or time. Those numbers are derived directly from the cable company who tell the channel operators what the base number is. They then apply the total number of viewers to a bunch of demographic statistical model ie age, time of program, whether they are watching a re run either on the channel or via dvr etc.
Then we have the satellite demographs, which use older technology from Nielsen. Only a select few thousand households have the little box that connects to the satellite receiver / digital television. They then base their total numbers on a bunch of stats, such as population able to receive the channel, where the program is being broadcast etc. Then they apply their approximate numbers to the total that used the nielsen box and voila a complete guess as to what the show numbers are based entirely on demographics. Bare in mind, the demos are made up entirely from the advertisers..so the measure of a show is sometimes squewed to people leaving a channel on and going out , or just flicking over and happening to catch an advert that is being monitored by the box.
The Nielsen method has been shown to be flawed, especially in today’s media rich and technologically advanced ways to watch a television show. The cable method is not without it’s flaws too, however it tends to be far more accurate and is not based entirely on what the advertising execs might think regarding the numbers ‘who might’ have just flicked over and where counted in the flawed demo reading.
The numbers aren’t always published to the viewing public, but you can get a general idea about some ratings here -> http://www.zap2it.com/tv/ratings/
November 8th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Not sure why, but I only just got notification of DL’s comment and missed it in the thread b4. Just wanted to say that I agree 101% with his assessment of the list of factors needed for a “successful stargate series”…and, really, SGU has none of them!
It is true that the bunch of people in SGU have been thrown together (literally) hence do not exactly form a cohesive team, hence likely to be way too much infighting etc etc. So, from that aspect it could be considered realistic – for a “Soap in Space”! BUT in terms of what SG fans want to see, it is a sure-fire recipe for the disaster it is.
Jason, I do hope you are right about MGM!
However, I heard that it was MGM who axed SGA (i.e. not SyFy/SciFi). Most fans (I signed loads of petitions!)seem to agree that SGA was ended way too early. Do you think there is a chance that they (MGM) will acknowledge that they *may* have made a mistake and re-instate it!
November 8th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Side Comment: I agree with you about Caprica too. The pilot was not bad – how the cylons came about in the first place – but it could/should have stopped there. SF fans are a smart bunch, and the dots were not exactly hard to connect between that & BSG. Spin-offs need to look forwards/be contemporary.
Compare it with the B5 movie called “In the beginning” (I think) where Londo tells his kids how the Minbari-Earth war started. It answered many questions – I really liked it! But the writers didn’t try to turn in into a “spin-back”. Smart!
November 9th, 2010 at 3:14 am
Hi JayD
SyFy being the rights and primary source funding from the show, where a little reluctant to go ahead with a 6th season. Baring in mind that season 4 for them was an unmitigated disaster viewer rating wise. They still went ahead with a season 5 of Atlantis.
At the same time Mallozzi and Cooper began looking into a 2nd spin off series from Stargate, and came up the traveling through space Galactica style method. The execs at Bridge told Mark Stern who then immediately ordered 2 seasons (they instantly greenlit it). So no it wasn’t MGM who canceled Atlantis, because they have no real say on series cancellations only on Movies they control the rights or make. They would have preferred to have kept Atlantis going for additional sources.
The Bridge told Stern that they wanted only to focus on SGU because they where committed to making it a success and any current running shows and movies could jeopardize the high hopes they had for SGU. So in this sense it was Bridge who asked SyFy to can Atlantis in favor of SGU, and you have to bare in mind the lower than normal numbers that Atlantis had in season 4..it was an easy choice for Atlantis to get the chop. Yet ironically each of their shows since Atlantis has been canceled have been far worse (apart from Haven).
November 9th, 2010 at 3:28 am
Formulaic episode shows such as Stargate are a god send to networks, because they can attract quite high numbers, furthered by the fact there aren’t many cliffhangers (end of season sure).
SyFy where trying to change their image which meant trying to change the way their shows looked on screen. Shows like Stargate aren’t really in the mold they want to create for themselves. SGU does fit the mold. As does the brand new BSG series set for production next year (Surprise, surprise? hardly).
Here was my call back last spring.
Caprica to get canned … no brainer
SGU to get canned … another no brainer
Eureka to be picked up for a 5th season
Haven to be picked up for a second season
By canceling both Cap and SGU, they can save themselves considerable money (SGU production costs are 3 times that of SG-1, while for Atlantis 5x (Atlantis was far cheaper to shoot than SG-1) So they save money by culling 2 expensive shows and making 1 new creation. They also would loose Eureka which means even more money made available.
Both Haven and Eureka have been picked up for new seasons (Eureka Season 5 and Haven Season 2). For me they are trying their darnest to move away from Sci fi. Their own dreadful movies are so far removed from sci fi they shouldn’t be labeled as such.
We all knew the moment that Sci Fi got their hands on the Gate franchise it would end up one giant mess..we really really need to get MGM to get their franchise off the syfy channel..they have truly butchered what people loved all for their own egotistical nonsense and pouting and we suffer.
November 9th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
To me it feels as though we keep hitting a brick wall when it comes to SGU and Mallozzi being that brick wall!!!
He has to be really stupid if he thinks that SGU is such an awesome show or he just isn’t taking us as SG fans seriously and so wasting time and money on CRAP and expects us to shut up and take it!!!
Doesn’t he get that we don’t WANT or NEED something different whan you alread have winning shows, I mean why change that??????
I said it once and I’ll say it again people at MGM, SyFy or which ever freakin channel needs to catch a WAKE UP!!!! FAST!!!
Us as SG fans are not going to stick around much longer and frankly we are getting fed up!!!
November 9th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Emma you optimize how most fans feel, regarding Mallozzi and the cheese factory over at the Bridge Studios.
Thing is what you need to remember is that Mallozzi is on a crusade at the moment because if this show gets canceled, its pretty likely he’ll end up out of a job. Further since he has his name written all over it, if it does fail..its going to look aweful bad on his resume if he wants to work elsewhere. By that I mean this Stargate, if you make a mess here your nailing your head to wall to guarantee not to work again for an aweful long time. Thats why Cooper shit himself and decided to back out of his own thrilling project..he knows whats coming and he is trying he hardest to distance himself..while Mallozzi is fighting his own personal hell (battle).
He needs to sit down with Brad Wright and admit defeat. If Mallozzi is asked to leave, great. If Wright is asked to leave then i’d be worrying big time, just can’t see that happening personally.
Thats why the day Mallozzi pisses off, from the franchise will be the day we can fully rejoice.
December 2nd, 2010 at 3:16 am
I agree 100% that SGU SUCKS!!!!
I have to say that WORMHOLE EXTREME is looking pretty good right now…
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:03 am
Stargate universe is total crap im adicted to sg1 and sga why dont they spend the money on more of them i need my weekly fix and universe aint doing it i gave it a season but it dont look like getting any better i miss rodney sam and the gang pleaseeeee scrap universe its like watching eastenders.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:54 am
…you mean it’s dark, dull, depressing and dangerously psychosis-inducing, but if you watch more than two consecutive episodes you can get sucked in (like nicotine!) and it brings you down with it? How true! (Luckily,I haven’t seen EE for 12 years since I left UK, yet I still shudder at the thought!)
SG-EE LOL!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
and at least WORMHOLE EXTREME was FUNNY!
December 2nd, 2010 at 4:06 pm
DL: I don’t subscribe to the idea they thought about galactica and how well it did. You see Galatica went down hill massively after its first season. It struggled to keep a 1.3 average..by season 3 they had decided to give it a long break, and hoped on its return it would improve, in fact it got much worse. Its average from above went down to a truly shocking 0.7, which is to say of the viewers it had on live 1,578,372 this during the first few episodes of season (comparable to atlantis by season 5), it had lost over half of those viewers by the time they decided to put it on hiatus. That is they lost another 700,000 viewers.
By the time they brought it back for a 4th season (quite why i dont know) the average had by this time slumped to an average of only 0.3.
There are parallels to how Universe is panning out, with almost identical numbers…however compared to BSG which by season 3 was without doubt it’s worse performing season by far..it maintained a very slightly higher demo average.
Caprica it’s spinoff, did shocking in it’s first season, in fact so bad it got canned by episode 9. Now we can compare universe to caprica which is a lot fairer…universe has performed a whole lot worse.
That’s why I don’t subscribe to that theory about BSG..syfy would have looked at it and said absolutely not…but hey what the hell they did it anyway.
BSG, Caprica, Universe all have the exact same things in common..Universe won’t make it to a third season…expect series cancellation shortly..unless the retards over at syfy decide to renew because they don’t have a new gate series to air.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:44 am
They have been putting off. That is why I have stopped watching SyFy and anything done by MGM. They need to keep their promise to the fans. They would then get more SGA fans to watch SGU.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:45 am
They need to get a move on. Getting tired of waiting.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:47 am
I agree Jason. And now they are ordering new episodes. Battlestar Galactica is just as expensive as SGA.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Surprisingly SyFy have not made any decision or announced it publicly yet, what fate befalls Universe. At this time of year SyFy looks ahead to the following season for it’s shows, and plans accordingly. However it appears for the first time they may well keep this information close to their chest..
Cmon SyFy hurry the hell up with the announcement..end of days..not coming back for a 3rd outing..season 2 has to be one of the worst rated shows of all time, certainly has to be in the top 10 of worst ever shows on syfy and thats saying something!
December 14th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Julie, SGA in comparison to SG-1 was made on a shoe string according to Bridge Studios, BSG was mostly all green screen for sfx etc.
SGU cost is twice that of Atlantis and more expensive than SG-1 was by the 9th season (SG-1 cost of production, actually rocketed up).
December 14th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Forgot to add, even if Atlantis did return. There is no way in hell id watch SGU, even under extreme torture…oops sorry, its already extreme torture as it is lol.
Mr Mollozzi needs to be fired from the Bridge. I mean really, he is now acting as a spokesperson for the studio, and lanblasting fans who hate the trash he writes and produces?..sorry Mallozzi, you have no right to make such nasty extraordinary comments about fans in the first place. make sure you hit your head on the way out Joesph Mallozzi, coz something needs to knock sense into your tiny brain
December 17th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Just found out that SGU is CANCELED!!!!! Can it be true? well if it is then let me just say that it’s about FREAKIN TIME!!! SGU is DONE, FINISHED, OVER and I am not sorry to see it GO BYE BYE!!!
December 17th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
ROCK ON!! I agree that it’s about BLOODY TIME!! Now hopefully there will be a movie soon!!
December 17th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
I can officially confirm that syfy have canceled SGU..the show will come to an end in the spring of 2011..syfy don’t quote the reason why its being canned, but we all know anyway…shocking numbers…that’ll server the tossers right for canceling SGA!!
SyFy will be without any new stargate to show, so now they’ll focus on what the fans actually want….if syfy want numbers and profits they’ll cough up the dough for the movies or dare i say it now..even a sga mini series..dont count it out just yet.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
We want stargate movies! We want stargate movies! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE……………
December 18th, 2010 at 2:12 am
SGU being cancelled is the BEST Christmas gift I could ever ask for!!!!!!! Thanx a million SyFy:-)
December 18th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
It is quite easy to guess why they are canceling SGU, it is and always has been from the first episode, horrible!! And Jason, you are right, that is what they get for canceling SGA. I don’t know why they did that. Maybe it was because they didn’t think that they could get people to watch such a terrible show when they had a good one still on. Who knows. I am just glad it is going. Maybe they can replace it with that web show “Riese” I haven’t seen any of it, but if it is any where near as good as Sanctuary, it could do ok.
December 18th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
The second part (last 10 episodes) of SGU will begin next spring, once they’ve been aired, that will bring to an end that show for good. Those wondering if it means we could possibly see an SGU movie as threatened numerous times by TPTB? Nope, syfy have have paid for the whole season to be made, hence why they are forced to show the last 10 episodes…NBC would crucify them them quite literally…but no they have made assurances that once its over its over and that they have been showing all new gate continuously since 2002…maybe that’s the problem, maybe a new network needs to aquire the rights, who will care for the franchise and have valuable input into a new series..syfy’s license will be up soon anyway with MGM for the gate franchise.
December 18th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
I agree, news of SGUs cancellation is the best xmas gift anyone could ask for! Hell, I could even die happy now.
December 19th, 2010 at 2:40 am
FINALLY…… shame it had to take 2 seasons though, what a waste of money, money that should have been spent of the 2 movies. Maybe now SyFy you will listen to the fans.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Ironically the movies are not funded by syfy they are actually funded by MGM themselves. It’s a different business model. SyFy then by the exclusive world rights to the movie if they want it..since they own the broadcast rights for the tv series.
However I can see them giving up the license before long. They have shown they have no business savvy nor care about the franchise.
SG-1 season 10 was actually just ahead of Atlantis before they canceled it. SG-1 was over 2.5 million viewers not including other markets such as pvr..remember pvr these days does a whole lot better than live..Atlantis was at the 1.6million numbers and climbing…SGU was at 1.2 million on prem then declined quite rapidly.
They could and technically should bring Atlantis back for another couple of seasons tbh, market on replays is still very much there…the actors want it, its upto syfy to bring it back…so get out there and start campaigning to get it back on the air…now they canned SGU and with a swift strong campaign we can force their hand to get it back to the tv screen..but we have to ensure those tools at syfy listen to us!
December 20th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Now the question is how long is it going to take this time before those tools at MGM pay attention? Just look at how much struggle we had to endure just so that SGU could get canned!!!!
December 20th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
I mean the tools at SyFy!!!
December 22nd, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Well all I can say is that those idiots at MGM or SyFy don’t really have anymore laim excuses and lie stories to spin us about why the SG Movies are taking so LONG!!!
December 22nd, 2010 at 5:53 pm
well cant say i hate SGU as much as the rest of you, lol but yeah it cant even compete with SGA or SG1 wont be sad to see SGU go but all i know is they better have some kind of SG fix for us junkies or there will be a riot!
December 23rd, 2010 at 5:15 am
They have nothing planned, and there are rumors that once this bankruptcy issue is cleared up with MGM, they will be going back to the courts to get the license back from syfy…other networks are interested.
The movies haven’t ever had anything to do with not being made due to some tv network.
You need to understand how these things work. Movies (inc straight to DVD) are funded entirely by the Studio not by any tv network. SyFy as a tv network funded the entire tv series. They then sell those rights around the world and make profit from it usually. In this case there are networks around the world who have already canceled this crapola show..there by syfy loose more money.
TV Movies (dvd) / Theatrical Movies = funded entirely by the studio (MGM)
TV Shows are entirely funded by the television network, they pay for the license to both show and make new series.
MGM are in debt to a tune of $4.8 Billion dollars..the only lies that where told, where by the misinformed or ignorant. We have known about this issue now for the last couple of years.
MGM are coming out of bankruptcy after they struck a deal with a judge so they could be sold, and keep their own stock. That means the Hobbit is now officially back in pre production…the stargate movies? lets get them another 6 months to see where they are at.
TV gate? I don’t think MGM would let them loose on the franchise anymore, after the near murdering of the franchise.
The only fans that SGU had where the terminally stupid..and they don’t matter anyway…they’ll all piss off back to faggy 90210 or what ever girly show they love anyway…thank god
January 5th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Any1 know a good tv show to watch, i just finished re watching sg1 sga and sgu and hearing that sgu has stoped im stuck, i loved them shows and all the movies and i rewatch them over and over, but the outcome is always the same i end up being board for a whole year trying to find something to watch or do D: Any Ideas?
January 5th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Well i really enjoyed the Farscape series, try that. Nothing like Stargate SG1 or SGA though, but you may or may not enjoy it. (And please, i dont intend to start a flame war here about how people like/dislike Farscape.)
-Nobody.
January 12th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
The Atlantis movie was NEVER going to be made. If the movie was never in pre-production, how could it be “shelved”? Its so pathetically transparent to watch Joe Mallozzi posting this comment all over the web when its a LIE. The new bridge and hydroponics set were constructed on Stage 6 at Bridge studios where the Atlantis gateroom used to be. The SG-1 Stargate Command control room which was in Stage 5 at Bridge was destroyed to create the Icarus Base set in SGU Air Pt 1, and that gate we see in that episode was the SG-1 gate (along with the walkway which led up to it).
Since Joseph Mallozzi is not the decision maker in Stargate (that would be Brad Wright), it is provable that Brad never gave any go-ahead for any progress on any Atlantis movie. So, Joe is LYING about any movie being shelved because it was never on the table. Only the Extinction script was completed in September of 2008, and nothing else about it has made any progress since then. Now, the sets are dismantled too, and they have been that way since the new SGU sets built on that stage were put up for season 2 of SGU.
Very interesting thread here: http://forums.sgusucks.com/showthread.php/1393-The-Atlantis-movie-was-NEVER-going-to-be-made-so-how-could-a-hold-have-been-put-on-it
All the proof is there. The proof is all over Joe’s blog as well as the Stargate Wiki. The Atlantis movie was NEVER going to be made by these showrunners.
January 13th, 2011 at 3:09 am
I wouldn’t worry in the slightest, coz at the end of the day its MGM who own the rights not Brad Wright and certainly not Mallozzi.
Sets are as easy to construct as they are to destroy. As for the gates being sold. They where the older SG-1 gates that where used pre season 8.
Sure other stuff was sold off and got rid off, but lets be honest for a minute and reflect on how easy it is to put it all back together.
I remember a while back a statement from the Bridge categorically stating that MGM had demanded they keep most of the Atlantis sets standing. You can allude to whatever you want about them making them keep those sets up.
However on a recent visit to the Bridge Studios (9 months ago), a number of the Atlantis sets where still in place and standing, including the main gate, they had just shifted it off to another stage.
MGM have to pay top wack to keep those sets up. Interestingly in the last couple of weeks MGM have told the execs to tear down the SGU sets. The show won’t be resold to another network and it most definitely will not be picked back up again after being canceled. No matter how much noise that sad lying fuckwit Mallozzi makes.
Stargate is a major franchise to MGM, and is a big profit maker to them. Look at the continuing sales of box sets of Atlantis and SG-1 and even the movies after the show was canned to see what I mean.
There is plenty of life left in the young pup yet (gate franchise).
Right now people need to let Mallozzi babble and gush as much shit as he wants coz at the end of the day no one cares.
MGM is now going through the finer details or being bought by another company (while retaining the movie and tv show rights). Which is a good thing. The Hobbit has been picked back up in recent weeks, and word from some people at the MGM studios is that the gate movies will get picked up at some stage this year. They cannot afford to keep the gate off the smallscreen, or they loose fans..common sense really.
So I think people need to stop worrying about what those tools at the Bridge think..coz at the end of the day MGM can quite easily snatch it back away from them.
You bet there are other companies out there, who’d snatch your nuts off to get the gate franchise…so it dont matter. Gate is not in the mess Trek was when Les Moonves shit on on it at CBS during season. The Gate despite SGU, is just as healthy as it has always been to be honest. You leave it too late and people will walk away and find another franchise to go with…MGM know this and thats why I can see both movies being greenlit and put into production this year.
January 20th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
All too often, management or leadership becomes so detached from their customer base or constituency that it results in a systematic failure of the good intention they may have. However these “good intentions” are not grounded in customer/constituency reality, in which they are depend upon for continuance of their endeavors or services.
I am a fan of SG1 and SGA, not so much of SGU. The SYFI Channel programing choices is a prime example of purposeful choices resulting in a slow and gradual systematic failure. The end result will be disillusion of the SYFI Channel all together. At one time in the not so distance past the SYFI Channel occupied probably thirty percent of my viewing time and almost a one hundred percent of my viewing time on Friday nights. Due to the programing changes, I seldom watch the SYFI Channel and mostly watch DVD sets of SG1, SGA, and BSG in order to feed my SYFI appetite.
Reality is relative and in the case of successful programing it’s the reality of the customer base that matters and no so much the elective choices of management. The SYFI Channel management needs to step into the reality of the fan base or remain in their reality that will result in less market share and failure of the channel in total. How about stepping “back to the future”, SYFI Channel management? Let me be clear, get back to your namesake SYFI, and provide what your customer base is asking for.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Jason, What you say makes a lot of sense, and I know you’ve been monitoring this since the beginning.
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It is now ~ 2 years since the last SGA season finished. MGM, as you say, know they have to act soon, since it must be clear to them that the SGA/SG1 fan-base is NOT the same as the SGU fan-base(assuming it had one!), and we won’t wait for ever [well we might
So let’s hope they are already acting!
Please keep us informed!!
Thanx
Ciao
JayD
January 24th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
I think a lot of people have read the decite and lies of Mr Mallozzi since he lost his stepford show SGU.
That the movies where not paramount to the success of SGU, and then after his awful show was pulled (very low ratings)he then starts babbling and gushing how the 2 movies where tantamount to the success of SGU.
It’s important to understand that the straight to DVD franchise as zero bearing on how well some television show does (in this case SGU has no bearing on SG-1 or Atlantis). There fore by common logic and the sales of both SG-1 movies…the idea that SGU is a sign of the times with gate fans is completely and utterly false indeed.
What one has to remember here, is that the movies (DVD) have no impact on how well a completely unrelated show does on TV .
Take this analogy. There are 3 TV shows, 1 of them as now gone straight to DVD instead of out right canceled. Show B is canceled because the producers hated working on it…and they bring out show C.
Very few people liked show C, so very people watch show C. MGM in it’s ultimate stupidity then decides that Show A which is just as popular as it was in it’s 11th season (box sets numbers)..and sold extremely well on it’s straight to DVD to cancel any further movies based entirely on show C’s performance. Sounds absolutely retarded doesn’t it? And it should sound retarded because thats not how you do successful business. You don’t take your popular selling items and ditch them for an untried product, which turns out to be absolute crap…and we can absolutely apply to Stargate.
The movies have no bearing on any thing that happens at the Bridge, no matter any of them say.
Business is business, and it’s easy to that away from studios like the Bridge and move it else where.
So folks don’t panic about no movies..it would be financially retarded not have them. It isn’t syfy who pays for the production of these movies its MGM, and the offset the cost on international and domestic sales of both the broadcast rights and the DVD sales.
We’d have to wait for cast members to finish their individual projects anyway. Some of the actors are on special guest appearances…and non have their own shows (even if they did, it would hardly take forever to commit to something they want to do). It’s not as if the actors have said I want nothing to do with Gate movies in the future.
Jason Momoa has said he doesn’t want to work on Atlantis anymore…big deal..move on.
I am still very confident these movies will go ahead. Unless it’s MGM saying no gate movies…then ignore everything those monkey nuts say over at the bridge.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
I am sorry I meant SGU was not paramount to the decision to make the SG Movies, then later after sgu cancellation, he then bullshits into believing his vindictive lies that the decision to make the Movies was based entirely on the success of SGU. Laughable he says that, because I explain above..its just deceit and lies and being vindictive to the Atlantis fans, he hates and despises so much.
He shouldn’t be allowed to work at the bridge with his attitude.